Quote (addone @ Jan 28 2023 02:14pm)

This is Stanford prison experiment that people ignore. Racism is there but it's a by-product of a power trip that develops with hierarchy.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 28 2023 03:51pm)

Ignoring the global tohu-bohu why you didn't post any kind of solution in OP ?

Quote (Goomshill @ 28 Jan 2023 22:57)

Because this wasn't a thread about bail reform, its about this murder case. I don't slaughter goats and read their entrails to figure out where the meandering discussion will wander

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 28 2023 06:07pm)

Solution to police violence is bail reform ? :o I don't think it's a major factor but anyway...

Quote (Bazi @ Jan 28 2023 06:39pm)

Obviously if the guy was white chances are this wouldn’t have happened. Do people honestly think different? It doesn’t matter what color the cop is - Stanford prison experiment always holds up. It doesn’t matter who DONS the pretty blue uniform. There is a huge portion of people that join for the wrong reasons.

Cops need scrutiny, yearly independent psych examinations, etc. Pay the job more. Make it 100k. Have a higher standard. Recruit higher educated individuals. The money saved on lawsuits will handle the increased salaries.

Quote (Bazi @ Jan 28 2023 06:39pm)

Obviously if the guy was white chances are this wouldn’t have happened. Do people honestly think different? It doesn’t matter what color the cop is - Stanford prison experiment always holds up. It doesn’t matter who dawns the pretty blue uniform. There is a huge portion of people that join for the wrong reasons.

Cops need scrutiny, yearly independent psych examinations, etc. Pay the job more. Make it 100k. Have a higher standard. Recruit higher educated individuals. The money saved on lawsuits will handle the increased salaries.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 28 2023 09:54am)

Black on black crime is a thing and happens within these communities on a daily basis even though it perpetrated by members of the same community, coming from the same place which isn't mitigatory like at all. The difference between the black on black crime that we all know exists which is rampant and is overwhelmingly represented in violent crime statistics and this incident is the 5 dudes were wearing uniforms therefore all of the sudden it's a problem of 'policing' but totally not the elephant in the room which is b on b crime.

This notion that if only the cops came from the same communities this wouldn't happen is silly. 40% of the cops in my city are black, about 50% of the city is black and as I've said before you have to be a resident of the city to even be a cop. You think violent crime rates are lower because 40% of the cops are black? You think the black cops are somehow less aggressive or more understanding or better prepared to de-escalate because they live in the same city or have the same skin color?

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jan 28 2023 08:02pm)

Wait, am I understanding you correctly that you're saying this incident has no reflection on 'policing' and that this is a merely the result of Black-on-Black crime which is the true 'core' of this incident?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 28 2023 05:25pm)

Not quiet. I said policing in the US is a reflection of society and the people they police, and the quoted response was a continuation of that discussion. The black on black crime in this country is unique IMO and the police attitudes and behaviors are a reaction to that reality. You can't view police militarism/brutality in the inner city in a vacuum and ignore the elephant of black on black crime that caused that reaction.