d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > San Francisco: $5 Million To Every Black Person
Prev18910111216Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 4,621
Joined: Jan 30 2021
Gold: 751.50
Jan 18 2023 06:42pm
Quote (fender @ Jan 18 2023 11:54pm)
apples and oranges. those immigrants you use to downplay the lasting effects of blatantly racist policies are usually significantly more intelligent and wealthy than their country's average to start with. take the indian-americans for example. how high do you think the percentage of indians is that could realistically emigrate to america in the first place? not only the travel costs, but also being accepted...

your whole "argument" is preposterous and flawed as fuck.

comparing african americans and white americans is a much more useful comparison because we're talking about significant and representative population groups, which have been affected by american policies for generations.

again, every halfway serious scholar in any related field (history / economics / social studies...) acknowledges that. there's tons of literature on the issue. your "america's racist past has absolutely no impact on black people today" narrative is one exclusively favoured by racists and those pandering to them for political reasons.


many of these people arrive poor as fuck, clearly native african americans should have the advantage.....but they dont

YeeHaw and i have already told you that anyone can make a decent living, if he really wants to

we told you that theres plenty of well paid work as long as you are not an illiterate and apply yourself

how is discrimination from dozens of years ago stopping a young black man from getting a railway or oil field job? or going to trade school, community college, getting certs, you name it

tell us fenderp

surely certain doors are more or less closed, when you are from a shitty neighborhood and baltimore ghetto highschool is not good enough for harvard university, but YOU DONT NEED THAT

all it takes is breaking out of the ghetto culture

you are pushing people into a victim role until they dont even try anymore

fucking racist, you have no interest to help anyone, because you couldnt be offended on their behalf
Member
Posts: 534
Joined: Nov 15 2014
Gold: 413.69
Jan 18 2023 07:01pm
typical. liberals absolutely cannot defend this so they resort to calling the entire forum a bunch of nazis. i mean, what else can they do? they cannot criticize the left.
Member
Posts: 16,097
Joined: Dec 27 2019
Gold: 69.69
Jan 18 2023 07:22pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jan 19 2023 09:35am)
nothing is stacked against anyone in that regard

alright, if you are a dude with one leg in yemen or so you are probably done

but there are ZERO excuses, if you are an able bodied person in the west

just apply yourself for fucks sake, there are so many shortages especially right now

a youtuber i follow constantly makes jokes about young people complaining and pulls up job offers

one i remember was for the railway in south dakota, 85k a year, 10k sign up bonus......what do you need? be 18 years old, high school diploma, be willing and able to work outside

but they somehow struggle to get guys

me talking about ghetto culture is not racist, successful black people who got out of the "communitah" will tell you the exact same thing about ghetto culture and broken families

you cant even tell me why foreign black people just walk in there and do better than natives......fucking victim narrative

https://abload.de/img/20230113_0310223vfti.jpg

somehow your fake racism is only a thing for african americans, but other brown/black people are outearning the "privileged" white class :rofl:

you make zero sense buddy


Bro don't own fender too hard, leave me some claps too lol.
Member
Posts: 30,165
Joined: Sep 10 2004
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
Jan 18 2023 07:29pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 19 Jan 2023 01:42)
many of these people arrive poor as fuck, clearly native african americans should have the advantage.....but they dont

YeeHaw and i have already told you that anyone can make a decent living, if he really wants to

we told you that theres plenty of well paid work as long as you are not an illiterate and apply yourself

how is discrimination from dozens of years ago stopping a young black man from getting a railway or oil field job? or going to trade school, community college, getting certs, you name it

tell us fenderp

surely certain doors are more or less closed, when you are from a shitty neighborhood and baltimore ghetto highschool is not good enough for harvard university, but YOU DONT NEED THAT

all it takes is breaking out of the ghetto culture

you are pushing people into a victim role until they dont even try anymore

fucking racist, you have no interest to help anyone, because you couldnt be offended on their behalf


"many people"... that's textbook anecdote. most black americans are also "poor as fuck". you provided the stats yourself.

just answer me this question: do you really deny that immigrants from countries like india are on average significantly richer and better educated than their peers back home? and if you concede that point, how do you not see how such a comparison is then incredibly flawed?

it's ALMOST like you don't want to make the comparison between white and black americans because deep down you know why black people have so much less wealth and opportunities. it's almost like you're still the racist hack you always were, ampoo - just on a new account for whatever reason...
Member
Posts: 30,165
Joined: Sep 10 2004
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
Jan 18 2023 07:38pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 19 Jan 2023 01:42)
many of these people arrive poor as fuck, clearly native african americans should have the advantage.....but they dont

YeeHaw and i have already told you that anyone can make a decent living, if he really wants to

we told you that theres plenty of well paid work as long as you are not an illiterate and apply yourself

how is discrimination from dozens of years ago stopping a young black man from getting a railway or oil field job? or going to trade school, community college, getting certs, you name it

tell us fenderp

surely certain doors are more or less closed, when you are from a shitty neighborhood and baltimore ghetto highschool is not good enough for harvard university, but YOU DONT NEED THAT

all it takes is breaking out of the ghetto culture

you are pushing people into a victim role until they dont even try anymore

fucking racist, you have no interest to help anyone, because you couldnt be offended on their behalf



some serious people and researchers on the topic:

https://www.edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai21-363.pdf
https://heller.brandeis.edu/iere/pdfs/racial-wealth-equity/racial-wealth-gap/roots-widening-racial-wealth-gap.pdf
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/06/racial-wealth-gap-may-be-a-key-to-other-inequities/
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/

how about YOU provide some sources that support your narrative that the racial wealth gap is NOT a result of systemic racism, instead of resorting to meaningless anecdotes and irrelevant pivots all the time?

This post was edited by fender on Jan 18 2023 07:41pm
Member
Posts: 16,097
Joined: Dec 27 2019
Gold: 69.69
Jan 19 2023 12:43am
Quote (fender @ Jan 19 2023 02:29pm)
"many people"... that's textbook anecdote. most black americans are also "poor as fuck". you provided the stats yourself.

just answer me this question: do you really deny that immigrants from countries like india are on average significantly richer and better educated than their peers back home? and if you concede that point, how do you not see how such a comparison is then incredibly flawed?

it's ALMOST like you don't want to make the comparison between white and black americans because deep down you know why black people have so much less wealth and opportunities. it's almost like you're still the racist hack you always were, ampoo - just on a new account for whatever reason...


An indian salary of a doctor or some highly qualified job pays less then the average black salary in US. Are you high of your nut again? Not only is the average pay significantly lower then US but to get education is also harder. Both are black one is a scum of the earth the other is hard working member of society and it reflects in their pay once they come here. There are many taxi drivers and labourers who are willing to roll up their sleeves and be humble.

While african blacks have developed a victimhood mentality, listen to rap, know how to cuss as young as 3 years old. These crack heads groom their kids to hold out their hand from the government and steal your bike.
There is a major shortage of workers around the world and especially US. Why are these bums complaining that life is hard.
People literally jump the border with no english, money, education or even a visa and end up doing better then the black community. Pathetic.

Member
Posts: 30,165
Joined: Sep 10 2004
Gold: 0.00
Warn: 30%
Jan 19 2023 02:14am
Quote (addone @ 19 Jan 2023 07:43)
An indian salary of a doctor or some highly qualified job pays less then the average black salary in US. Are you high of your nut again? Not only is the average pay significantly lower then US but to get education is also harder. Both are black one is a scum of the earth the other is hard working member of society and it reflects in their pay once they come here. There are many taxi drivers and labourers who are willing to roll up their sleeves and be humble.

While african blacks have developed a victimhood mentality, listen to rap, know how to cuss as young as 3 years old. These crack heads groom their kids to hold out their hand from the government and steal your bike.
There is a major shortage of workers around the world and especially US. Why are these bums complaining that life is hard.
People literally jump the border with no english, money, education or even a visa and end up doing better then the black community. Pathetic.


you could have saved yourself the humiliation by reading more carefully, and not blowing a gasket and typing up a rage essay every time you see me post here.

what i actually said is that the indians successfully emigrating to the US and becoming the "indian-americans" of ampoo's statistic, are significantly more intelligent and wealthy than the average of indians back home, so comparing this very "elite" group of a population with a group that includes members of all intelligence and wealth levels is skewed by design. it's apples and oranges. that's like watching the olympics and concluding the US couldn't possibly be a nation of morbidly obese, lazy fucks.

as to the rest of your simple-minded racist notions... your last word sums them up perfectly: pathetic.
Member
Posts: 21,555
Joined: May 22 2014
Gold: 0.00
Jan 19 2023 02:30am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Jan 19 2023 03:58am)
I can literally get anybody a job making over 100k right now with a moving bonus and housing provided by the company. Literally anybody who can move their arms and legs for 12 hours a day.

Anybody. Hit me up.




Okay let me rephrase. Those comments are not designed to show superiority over any race.

This is a fact.

If you explicitly say something it has been said. If you make a joke, it is a joke.



What is the 100k job with housing provided that literally anyone can do?
Member
Posts: 16,097
Joined: Dec 27 2019
Gold: 69.69
Jan 19 2023 02:59am
Quote (fender @ Jan 19 2023 09:14pm)
you could have saved yourself the humiliation by reading more carefully, and not blowing a gasket and typing up a rage essay every time you see me post here.

what i actually said is that the indians successfully emigrating to the US and becoming the "indian-americans" of ampoo's statistic, are significantly more intelligent and wealthy than the average of indians back home, so comparing this very "elite" group of a population with a group that includes members of all intelligence and wealth levels is skewed by design. it's apples and oranges. that's like watching the olympics and concluding the US couldn't possibly be a nation of morbidly obese, lazy fucks.

as to the rest of your simple-minded racist notions... your last word sums them up perfectly: pathetic.


You love getting self owned or something? You are literally a low hanging fruit bud Its effortless to clap your cheeks on the daily.

Elite indians ROFL..... they get paid more in us because wages and the dollar is significantly worth more then a rupee you doofus. That is why they are wealthier NOT because they are indian-american.
They are the same indians they are not significantly smarter. A doctor from india is just as smart if not smarter then a doctor in Us, a taxi driver in india is just as smart as a cab driver in US.

Come back for another clapping anytime.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 19 2023 03:00am
Member
Posts: 3,182
Joined: Mar 14 2009
Gold: 10.00
Jan 19 2023 03:06am
Quote (MildSambal @ Jan 19 2023 12:30am)
What is the 100k job with housing provided that literally anyone can do?


I had to read way too far for this comment. :rofl: :rofl:

I get the notion being presented, and I more or less agree with it... but 100k entry level? ehhhh I'm not so sure you're serious about that number.

Not to be disagreeable but could you share more information? 100k seems a little high. :banana:

Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev18910111216Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll