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Nov 21 2022 01:18pm
Quote (Melatonina @ 21 Nov 2022 13:53)
Doesn't make a shit vaccine better though. must be one of the worst vaccine in history,


Well, as much as I want the vaccine to be more effective and easier to create/distribute, since there are 6.6+ million who died who would have otherwise been alive if they had not contracted covid-19 or one of it's variants, the vaccine still mitigated most of the 50+ million deaths that were expected from this pandemic. Granted, there's plenty of time left since the pandemic is far from over.
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Nov 21 2022 01:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Nov 2022 19:35)
Hot take: better gay adults than school children.


wait, did this guy also want to shoot up a school and didn't get to it because he was stopped by some brave patrons of the club?!
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Nov 21 2022 01:22pm
There was a shooting.

The angry German national socialist calls for disarming innocent people while scapegoating and demonizing a demographic.
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Nov 21 2022 01:26pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 21 2022 02:22pm)
wait, did this guy also want to shoot up a school and didn't get to it because he was stopped by some brave patrons of the club?!


He was quoted by police as saying "the only way i'd shoot kids is if they're at a drag show". even monsters have rules.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ 21 Nov 2022 14:22)
The angry German national socialist calls for disarming innocent people while scapegoating and demonizing a demographic.


I don't know if you remember what happened in history class, but eventually a group of countries banded together and murdered most of that group of nationalist socialists.

I'm a little bit confused as to why people think it won't happen again.
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Nov 21 2022 01:34pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 08:01pm)
down in here in reality the number of serious adverse effects from vaccines are smaller than the number of serious adverse effects from covid by an order of magnitude.


That's probably right, you may find 1 adverse effect out of 10 for vaccines and maybe 25-50% from covid cases, except that everyone doesn't necessarly catch covid lol
in my country on over 49 millions people, the vaccinated ones are going twice as much at the hospital from covid than non-vaccinated ones. same for deaths.
At some point it's just fine to say you got played. vaccines did nothing on the pandemy it's just going down over time like any other one.
I'll add that it was silly in the first place to get a vaccine for a (highly) mutative virus. never in the history vaccines eradicated one of such viruses.

Quote (mki @ Nov 21 2022 08:18pm)
Well, as much as I want the vaccine to be more effective and easier to create/distribute, since there are 6.6+ million who died who would have otherwise been alive if they had not contracted covid-19 or one of it's variants, the vaccine still mitigated most of the 50+ million deaths that were expected from this pandemic. Granted, there's plenty of time left since the pandemic is far from over.


I really wanna know who was expecting 50 M death from a virus such as covid rofl.
And it's nowhere near 6 millions to begin with. We know for sure those numbers in belgium and Italy were inflated with others death causes.
I even personally know a guy who died of cancer and was reported as covid death.

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Quote (Melatonina @ Nov 21 2022 02:34pm)
That's probably right, you may find 1 adverse effect out of 10 for vaccines and maybe 25-50% from covid cases, except that everyone doesn't necessarly catch covid lol
in my country on over 49 millions people, the vaccinated ones are going twice as much at the hospital from covid than non-vaccinated ones. same for deaths.
At some point it's just fine to say you got played. vaccines did nothing on the pandemy it's just going down over time like any other one.
I'll add that it was silly in the first place to get a vaccine for a (highly) mutative virus. never in the history vaccines eradicated one of such viruses.



I really wanna know who was expecting 50 M death from a virus such as covid rofl.
And it's nowhere near 6 millions to begin with. We know for sure those numbers in belgium and Italy were inflated with others death causes.
I even personally know a guy who died of cancer and was reported as covid death.


if you start from the position that a vaccine must eradicate a disease to be worthwhile i understand why you think what you do.

would love to see data on vaccinated dying twice as often as nonvaxxed tho.
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Nov 21 2022 01:42pm
Quote (Melatonina @ 21 Nov 2022 14:34)
I really wanna know who was expecting 50 M death from a virus such as covid rofl.
And it's nowhere near 6 millions to begin with. We know for sure those numbers in belgium and Italy were inflated with others death causes.
I even personally know a guy who died of cancer and was reported as covid death.


It was a computer model done by some of the most intelligent scientists and doctors on the planet. The model was with zero mitigation efforts at all. It was not a vaccine effectiveness model. I just want to be clear about that because what I said previously was a little bit vague. So that's 50 million estimated deaths with no social distancing, masks, vaccines, or anything else the world did to try to mitigate the spread.

The actual deaths are probably closer to 10 million as there are billions of people who are living in countries that do not keep accurate records of their populations. This should be apparent after the satellite photos of the mass corpse burn pits that were observed in countries like India.

Also, if you're not a doctor, it's not reasonable for you to evaluate a person's cause of death. That cancer patient could have potentially recovered from cancer had they not gotten covid-19. More and more people do successfully survive cancer due to modern medicine these days.
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Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Nov 2022 20:26)
He was quoted by police as saying "the only way i'd shoot kids is if they're at a drag show". even monsters have rules.


so the choice in your "hot take" wasn't actually one? i understand... not that you should have to make that choice in the first place in a somewhat civilised country...
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Nov 21 2022 01:57pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 21 2022 02:55pm)
so the choice in your "hot take" wasn't actually one? i understand... not that you should have to make that choice in the first place in a somewhat civilised country...


i mean if i had 2 buttons and had to push one, yes i would kill 20 adults (gay or otherwise) over 20 children. hell i'd prob kill 20 adults over 10 children. might even go as high as 5:1.
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