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Oct 23 2022 04:36pm
Quote (WastedPenguinz @ 22 Oct 2022 04:59)
fear the far right though


Amount of people that have died from lunatics throwing soup on oil paintings: zero
amount of people that have died from fringe politics left and right: countless.
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Oct 23 2022 04:55pm
Performance art, nothing to see here, if anything they should be compensated by the gallery for their labor and the attention it's brought
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Performance art, nothing to see here, if anything they should be compensated by the gallery for their labor and the attention it's brought


They should be drawn and quartered for attempting to destroy a cultural heritage piece of art that is bigger and more important than they will ever be.
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Oct 23 2022 05:28pm
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You need to do some research. MLKs protests were covered almost word for word the way BLM protests were. MLk died with a 75% disapproval rating.

While true, there is a massive difference between the actual message put forward by the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s and the woke movement of the 2010s.



Martin Luther King:
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

Ibram X. Kendi (one of the most prominent thought leaders of BLM and CRT):
“The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.”

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While true, there is a massive difference between the actual message put forward by the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s and the woke movement of the 2010s.



Martin Luther King:
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

Ibram X. Kendi (one of the most prominent thought leaders of BLM and CRT):
“The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.”


The 1960's had more leaders than MLK, and MLK was an active socialist who was white washed to hell. Plenty of other leaders said things like what Ibram did. Malcolm X argued for black power, black autonomy, and black self defense specifically. King wanted everybody from the working class to be liberated from capitalism and for all downtrodden to be lifted up, but blacks would be lifted up more because they had been discriminated against more so they had further to lift.

You're still putting forward a very white washed version of the 1960's. It's not totally your fault. Those in power wanted a black guy to put in history books who's message they could turn into "stay in line and don't disrupt too much and you'll get your way". So they platformed King posthumously, did their best to eliminate all the inconvenient hings he wanted, and pushed down other leaders of the time.

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Quote (WastedPenguinz @ Oct 22 2022 04:59am)
fear the far right though


The soup people scare you?
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Oct 23 2022 07:20pm
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MLK was an active socialist


Yes he was,. Martin Lucifer King. The man followed the Luciferian Doctrine.

Not to downplay the eye opening for america but he was leading people into a socialist totalitarian direction.
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The 1960's had more leaders than MLK, and MLK was an active socialist who was white washed to hell. Plenty of other leaders said things like what Ibram did. Malcolm X argued for black power, black autonomy, and black self defense specifically. King wanted everybody from the working class to be liberated from capitalism and for all downtrodden to be lifted up, but blacks would be lifted up more because they had been discriminated against more so they had further to lift.

You're still putting forward a very white washed version of the 1960's. It's not totally your fault. Those in power wanted a black guy to put in history books who's message they could turn into "stay in line and don't disrupt too much and you'll get your way". So they platformed King posthumously, did their best to eliminate all the inconvenient hings he wanted, and pushed down other leaders of the time.


Let's agree that in certain cases the civil rights movements were disruptive, certainly not always though. That's still beside the point, because the two movements are nothing alike. A movement being disruptive to achieve it's goals can be warranted in a case of obvious oppression, like there was pre-civil rights with blacks, or India with the British colonizers, or in other colonies, we can dig up enough examples. In pretty much all of these there is an inherent oppressed vs oppressor, poor vs rich, majority vs minority, etc line of delineation. That's not the case with the anti-oil movement of today. The people perpetrating these disruptions are not the poor, not the underclass but rather middle and upper class white young people. Their disruptive behavior is actually anti-poor people because even if lite versions of their asks would be implemented you'd have mass starvation first in the half the globe that's black, brown and poor and eventually everywhere else. It's an inherent privileged and bourgeoisie position, one that comes from a very insulated living. The pleb of the world, whether you go to Asia, Africa, South America isn't thinking about these ideas, and in many cases does not support these positions because they would literally die if they'd be implemented.
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Oct 23 2022 07:33pm
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In pretty much all of these there is an inherent oppressed vs oppressor, poor vs rich, majority vs minority, etc line of delineation.



I'm glad you included 'majority vs minority', Because that is Exactly what Democracy is.
The majority pick what's best for them and the minorities suffer.

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I'm glad you included 'majority vs minority', Because that is Exactly what Democracy is.
The majority pick what's best for them and the minorities suffer.


White rich people feigning to be moral snapping photos on their 1200 iPhone to post on Instagram and Tik-Tok of 'doing the right thing' then going to starbucks to order their 8 dollar soy latte and high fiving each other being the minorities meanwhile the dirt poor farmers in Bangladesh or Zimbabwe scraping by a meager living using their petrol motorcycle to bring stuff to sell to the market so they and their families don't starve to death the majority. You're right.

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