I dont see the either side ever going with proportional representation.

I wouldn't count on that. Very hard to predict where voting would fall all things considered. A lot of people don't bother voting because they live in certain strongholds. I myself live in one of the safest labour seats in the UK so don't bother wasting the half hour of my day to vote.

Plus, with the disastrous coalition between tories and lib-dems of the past which pretty much ended in the decimation of the lib dems, the tories would find it far harder getting other groups to join in a coalition. Meanwhile, labour would fairly easily suck up the lib dems, greens, probably even the snp if they promised them another referendum.

And UKIP are pretty much non existant now. Between them and the reform group (UKIP #2) think they get about 3-4% of the vote share each. About the same collectively as the snp. Not enough to prop a weakened tory party up, especially on recent polling.

Nor do I. Very hard to convince whoever is in power to vote to potentially give up some of that power.

But the faint dream of it is still there while the labour party poll so high, and it's membership votes for it.

Long term, if labour really cared about the people of the UK, they'd make sure there was an electoral leash on the tories to make sure they could never get such a sizeable majority ever again. No party should be able to act with such impunity, labour included.

Conversely a government without a majority can't get its agenda through the house of commons, not to mention the house of lords.

This whole Torie leadership fiasco has laid bare the ridiculous nature of UK's political process. How many changes of ministerial positions have they had in 6 months let alone the whole parliamentary term?

I won't be surprised if we hear that inspector gadget has been made chancellor and Paddington bear is the new health secretary.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 18 2022 07:30am

In 2022 according to soviet russia every nation that becomes egocentric is Nazi. Italy is a great example.

This post was edited by Humbletrader on Oct 18 2022 06:06pm

They said that BS in the US about Italy too.

I remember when the new PM, Giulia Meloni posted a video about a black muslim "migrant" raping a native italian woman.

literally everyone got upset because "it wasn't the time" and she "shoudl think of the victim" and "that is bigotry" and so on.

so trying to raise awareness about black muslim "migrants" abhorrently raping italian women is bad, thus Giulia Meloni is a nazi racist.

This post was edited by SanduLungu on Oct 18 2022 07:04pm

BBC:

This is now a government in a rolling state of chaos. A senior cabinet minister going on television and not knowing if the Chief Whip Wendy Morton is still in post. They're the words just now of the Business Secretary Jacob Rees-Mogg. A vote on fracking which a weak government attempted to turn into a test of strength by saying it was a confidence vote. And then changing its mind at the last moment. Chaotic scenes in Parliament.

A home secretary resigns. A senior adviser to the prime minister suspended. The blunt question tonight is whether this is part of a death spiral that will sweep Liz Truss from power.

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Cant say I liked that home secretary or the one before. good riddance. the circumstances around the resignation are such that in and of itself its not the start of a max exodus, but it is another chip away at the armor. I am pretty convinced this topic will be gone by christmas (i.e. that truss will be gone by then).

If you ask me, there can be no question that this is a death spiral for Liz Truss. She's 100% a goner. The open question, to me, is if the Tories can stabilize the government with a new leader or if this is actually a death spiral for the entire party.

There are even rumors that BoJo might be coming back.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 19 2022 10:39pm

The sad truth is, even with the miserable job the Tories have done. English voters will still vote conservative in droves. The haves attempting to protect what they already have.