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Jun 20 2022 06:55pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jun 20 2022 08:52pm)
No, it's simply when no outsiders are attacking, you fight within.
Now, it's coming from all sides so we group together for a better chance.
Nothing more.


welfare didn't exist back then either...

there was nothing to immigrate here for, for the freeloaders

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 20 2022 07:55pm)
welfare didn't exist back then either...

there was nothing to immigrate here for, for the freeloaders


I disagree.
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Jun 20 2022 07:17pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 20 Jun 2022 17:55)
welfare didn't exist back then either...

there was nothing to immigrate here for, for the freeloaders


I dunno. The ability to nab up a few thousand acres of land once your indenture was served was a pretty hefty dream. That'd place you at the level of nobility, in Ireland.

Quote (sirthom @ 20 Jun 2022 17:50)
No one is scared of orientals.
I once told one he had cataracts.
He said, "no, no. I drive Rincoln Continental.


LOL

Thank god for oriental people. Seriously, if it weren't for their gun powder, what a bleak and horrific world this'd be. ;)
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Quote (Skinned @ Jun 21 2022 10:43am)
First world means Allied with US after WW2, Second world means Soviet Bloc which doesn't exist but Putin is trying to bring it back, and third world are the countries neutral in WW2. Not sure what definitions you are using or how useful they are but this is probably what he is talking about, the actual definitions.


This is correct, the term gets thrown around so much by racists who have no idea what it means but it literally says nothing about the wellbeing of the people.
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South America - Shithole
Africa - Shithole
India - Shithole
Middle east- Shithole
China - Shithole
Korea - Shithole
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See where i'm going with this?
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 18 2022 07:01am)
The current us is still a great country only held back in its potential by guys like Thom.
The sooner the racists and anti socialism crowd are bred out America will get a real healthcare system and social safety net and will finally begin to do something about the crime rate.


Universal healthcare will make worse outcomes, think insurance companies now, just on cocaine. Given how close big business and big government are in the US, itll probably be run by the same people profiting the same people if we went to a “government run” system, which we arent far from currently.

All forms of social security make people end up worse. Just look at what its done to the african american community. Again sold as an “insurance policy”, when its really just a shit tax with young people paying for the old and government taking roughly 30-40%.

The idea that the demand for these ideas came from the people and werent sold to them still makes me sad to this day.
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Jun 21 2022 05:08am
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First world means Allied with US after WW2





Initially, yes. But the meaning of the term 1st world has., like so many things, changed over the years.
NOW... it does mean... not a shithole.

Or... maybe: electricity, indoor plumbing and access to good food, medical and schools.

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Initially, yes. But the meaning of the term 1st world has., like so many things, changed over the years.
NOW... it does mean... not a shithole.

Or... maybe: electricity, indoor plumbing and access to good food, medical and schools.


Current definition also includes functioning democracy, and not a theocracy. Under the current definition, I'm not sure Denmark is first world. Decent enough nation, but given it's a Monarchy, that kind of goes against the whole democracy thing.

That being said, if the definition they are using is the 3 world definition of the 50's, then that's what they're using. Hence why I asked.
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Quote (ssdrmstre @ Jun 21 2022 06:13pm)
Universal healthcare will make worse outcomes, think insurance companies now, just on cocaine. Given how close big business and big government are in the US, itll probably be run by the same people profiting the same people if we went to a “government run” system, which we arent far from currently.

All forms of social security make people end up worse. Just look at what its done to the african american community. Again sold as an “insurance policy”, when its really just a shit tax with young people paying for the old and government taking roughly 30-40%.

The idea that the demand for these ideas came from the people and werent sold to them still makes me sad to this day.


My country has socialist healthcare and it works fine the model already exists.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 21 2022 04:16am)
My country has socialist healthcare and it works fine the model already exists.


The US is the odd country that has the money to produce some sort of healthcare for all and doesn't.
For some strange reason, Americans think the rest of the world "cant figure it out"
The disconnect is strong.
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