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May 25 2022 12:11pm
Quote (TiStuff @ May 25 2022 12:59pm)
wouldnt be the first time the cop(s) just hung around while a shooter did his thing. got be kooked outa your head to think .gov gives a chit about you


Let it happen, then claim to only way to stop it is to take away more of your rights.
Libs can't drink the kool-aid fast enough.

This post was edited by sirthom on May 25 2022 12:12pm
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May 25 2022 12:11pm
I don't know the answer but there has to be more support for mental health.
And when owning a car takes insurance it makes me think this.
Make insurance part of gun ownership. Let companies screen you etc. the capitalist's will for sure figure out who is fit to carry a gun.
If you need insurance on a Ford Fiesta, you should need it on a `10mm Glock.
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May 25 2022 12:14pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 25 2022 11:11am)
I don't know the answer but there has to be more support for mental health.
And when owning a car takes insurance it makes me think this.
Make insurance part of gun ownership. Let companies screen you etc. the capitalist's will for sure figure out who is fit to carry a gun.
If you need insurance on a Ford Fiesta, you should need it on a `10mm Glock.


insurance on a Ford Fiesta
(a rip off)

insurance on a `10mm Glock
(a rip off idea)
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May 25 2022 12:30pm
Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 11:55am)
stop pretending guns ensured any kind of "freedom". it's utter bullshit.

in reality, you live in a de facto oligarchy, your government exclusively works for corporations and the rich, your for profit prisons are filled to the brim with non-violent, low level offenders - nice "freedom". your police tramples all over your rights and regularly gets away with murdering you, your government surveils you and tells you what to do with your bodies. not once have americans successfully used their guns to prevent any kind of government overreach, intrusion, tyranny, or corruption. it's an illusion, an ad campaign, a means to brainwash low-iq individuals, a dumb and transparent excuse to "justify" your gun obsession against the tragic body count that goes with it.

at least have the balls to say it like it is: "fuck it, i love my guns, and i won't let a few dead children ruin this for me. my guns are more important to me than some strangers' kids" - that'd at least be honest. then again, if you had actual balls, you probably wouldn't be so obsessed with guns...


All of that would be made better by giving up our guns??? Moron.

And yes, guns have successfully been used to stop government overreach, intrusion, tyranny, etc.
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May 25 2022 12:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 25 May 2022 13:03)
the bill of rights was written at a time when shooting a kindergarden class would have taken either 45 minutes or a wagon full of loaded muskets.

i dont support anti free speech laws generally, cant even think of one i have supported in fact.


My point is that the original intention are forefathers had for firearms was to defend yourself and your country.

As an American I know full well that if shit hits the fan I can only rely on myself and my countrymen. Our government is controlled. It's not a NWO conspiracy it's a fact and it's right in front of our eyes and it always has been.

I don't trust my government at all nor do I think they'll be reliable when we need them most. If the military had to start putting citizens down they WOULD.

The military industrial complex which has metastasized into an unstoppable juggernaut would make mince meat of any population they so choose and they've been doing it abroad for decades. Even someone like you with plenty of ammo/firearms would be targeted FIRST and eradicated first. They know where you live and what firearms you possess because you play THEIR game.

The world is collapsing right in front of our eyes and as nations get more and more desperate they will start to commit atrocities unseen in human history. The only people on Earth capable of forming a militia group big enough to defend itself is the American armed populace.

Do I have years worth of food/water/ammo/weapons because I'm scared of my neighbor or some gangster goons? No. I have those things because if it got really bad my enemy would by approximation become the government not the citizenry around me which would be struggling just to get food, water, shelter. Divide and Conquer. Control through Chaos. etc. etc.

"Prepper mentality" is actually just future security in case of the inevitable and if you don't see that the planet is on fire right now I don't know what to say.
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May 25 2022 12:37pm
Quote (Santara @ May 25 2022 11:30am)
All of that would be made better by giving up our guns??? Moron.

And yes, guns have successfully been used to stop government overreach, intrusion, tyranny, etc.

Just curious, when was the last time that was true here in the states?
Not trying to be a wise ass, I'm genuinely curious.

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May 25 2022 12:39pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ May 25 2022 01:35pm)
My point is that the original intention are forefathers had for firearms was to defend yourself and your country.

As an American I know full well that if shit hits the fan I can only rely on myself and my countrymen. Our government is controlled. It's not a NWO conspiracy it's a fact and it's right in front of our eyes and it always has been.

I don't trust my government at all nor do I think they'll be reliable when we need them most. If the military had to start putting citizens down they WOULD.

The military industrial complex which has metastasized into an unstoppable juggernaut would make mince meat of any population they so choose and they've been doing it abroad for decades. Even someone like you with plenty of ammo/firearms would be targeted FIRST and eradicated first. They know where you live and what firearms you possess because you play THEIR game.

The world is collapsing right in front of our eyes and as nations get more and more desperate they will start to commit atrocities unseen in human history. The only people on Earth capable of forming a militia group big enough to defend itself is the American armed populace.

Do I have years worth of food/water/ammo/weapons because I'm scared of my neighbor or some gangster goons? No. I have those things because if it got really bad my enemy would by approximation become the government not the citizenry around me which would be struggling just to get food, water, shelter. Divide and Conquer. Control through Chaos. etc. etc.

"Prepper mentality" is actually just future security in case of the inevitable and if you don't see that the planet is on fire right now I don't know what to say.


Well said. :hail:
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May 25 2022 12:40pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ May 25 2022 01:35pm)
My point is that the original intention are forefathers had for firearms was to defend yourself and your country.

As an American I know full well that if shit hits the fan I can only rely on myself and my countrymen. Our government is controlled. It's not a NWO conspiracy it's a fact and it's right in front of our eyes and it always has been.

I don't trust my government at all nor do I think they'll be reliable when we need them most. If the military had to start putting citizens down they WOULD.

The military industrial complex which has metastasized into an unstoppable juggernaut would make mince meat of any population they so choose and they've been doing it abroad for decades. Even someone like you with plenty of ammo/firearms would be targeted FIRST and eradicated first. They know where you live and what firearms you possess because you play THEIR game.

The world is collapsing right in front of our eyes and as nations get more and more desperate they will start to commit atrocities unseen in human history. The only people on Earth capable of forming a militia group big enough to defend itself is the American armed populace.

Do I have years worth of food/water/ammo/weapons because I'm scared of my neighbor or some gangster goons? No. I have those things because if it got really bad my enemy would by approximation become the government not the citizenry around me which would be struggling just to get food, water, shelter. Divide and Conquer. Control through Chaos. etc. etc.

"Prepper mentality" is actually just future security in case of the inevitable and if you don't see that the planet is on fire right now I don't know what to say.


The govt has zero idea how many firearms and ammunition i have. zero.

as to being a prepper i am one myself, there's no a hard line between being prepared for fallout and being more self reliant and also supporting some action on gun violence. though ive met many preppers like yourself that disagree and that's fine. im typically happy there's more preppers even if we disagree, some dont feel the same way.
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May 25 2022 12:42pm
Quote (Vereor @ May 25 2022 01:37pm)
Just curious, when was the last time that was true here in the states?
Not trying to be a wise ass, I'm genuinely curious.


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May 25 2022 12:43pm
Quote (Vereor @ May 25 2022 01:37pm)
Just curious, when was the last time that was true here in the states?
Not trying to be a wise ass, I'm genuinely curious.


It's true right now.
As bad as it is, it would be much worse without us still having guns.
We are the last stand before the free fall,
yet they have trained most to sit and take it instead.

This post was edited by sirthom on May 25 2022 12:43pm
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