Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 23 May 2022 02:57)
Doesn't sound orwellian at all. In fact it's about the exact opposite of Orwell as you can get. It's patently obvious that in order to lift up an oppressed people you have to... target the oppressed people. If those people were oppressed based on a certain race, you target that race. That's not racism, that's just reality. It's a smoothe brain take to say it's "racism in the name of anti-racism" to do that.
I don't remember if you answered me. I asked specifically if you would be okay with finding families specifically hurt by red-lining and comprensating them for it. You said you were fine with Japanese reparations because it was done shortly after the interments, but I don't remember what you answered when I asked this question on red lining.
The powers that be redefining words to take on the opposite of their previous meaning? That sounds very Orwellian to me.
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The key issue with CRT is not that it (ostensibly) seeks to lift historically oppressed people up, it's that it tries to achieve this "historical justice" by actively discriminating the former oppressors (or what the proponents of CRT perceive as such). CRT is very explicit in that its goal is not MLK's fabled "colorblind society", but rather a society which is perpetually hyperfocused on race. Ibram Kendi, one of the most prominent thought leaders of the movement, puts it like this: "the only way to remedy past discrimination is present discrimination; the only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination".
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I can't quite remember my answer in the discussion you're referring to, but on the fly, I would say that I support compensation for the victims of recent discrimination by the state itself, but that trying to find the grandsons and grand-grand-daughters of people who were discriminated against generations ago is a futile and unproductive endeavor.
My position on the broader issue is still the same: the best solution to inequality which persists to this day as echoes of past discrimination is to simply engage in policies which help all the poor, irrespective of their skin color or concrete events of discrimination. Since PoC (mostly blacks) are disproportionately poor, such policies would benefit them disproportionately as well and, over time, close the wealth gap. The big advantage of this approach is that it is far less toxic and doesn't pit different races against each other, doesn't give one poor person an entitlement while denying it to an equally poor and deprived person of a different skin color, etc. pp.
To put it in a pointed catchphrase: good old "labor policies", rather than wokeism, are the way to go.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 22 2022 09:24pm