Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Apr 14 2022 09:20am)

Isn't that hermaphrodite in a sense? If not, no idea of the wording.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 14 2022 11:11am)

isnt the core of this entire issue the expansion of trans rights? sports gets headlines, as do silly ineffectual laws in southern states that amount to nothing. but there are still very real questions about not only legal rights, but also if we as a society should brand people with very negative labels based on their level of acceptance of trans narratives around trans identity. on a more topical level should we tell all public school children that dont understand statistics about trans identity even though only 1/100,000 or w/e people are trans, or should we let councilors try and identify people who are trans and handle these issues behind closed doors.

pendulums rarely swing from bigotry to dead center, i dont think we've gotten into lala land in most cases, but the resistance to that swing isn't entirely bigoted ben shapiro fanboys either.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 14 2022 05:22pm)

I think netflix's argument is that the presence of hermaphrodites is "proof" that sex is a spectrum.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 14 2022 12:24pm)

The propensity for being trans is far higher than 1/100,000. Once we stop actively discriminating, I suspect it's going to get as high as one or two percent.

The real issue is that well-meaning centrists are eating propaganda from ben shapiro types who's only real agenda is cruelty. As a result you get people who have never met a trans person suddenly caring very deeply about how unfair it is, even though they never touched womens sports and have no clue to what extent the issue exists.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 14 2022 12:16pm)

It's on the outer edge of a Bell curve distribution to be sure, but it's enough of a sample to be considered part of a spectrum, even if the classical M/F group makes up the vast majority of it.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 14 2022 11:22am)

I think netflix's argument is that the presence of hermaphrodites is "proof" that sex is a spectrum.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 14 2022 11:31am)

It's not even in the same galaxy as the outer edge. If this happened with rates of like 1 per 1000 we can talk about it maybe, but this has a rate ranging from .5 to 5 per 100,000. So we're going to toss out the binary reality that represents 99.99995% of people because of .00005%?

And once again, this is isn't happening because there has been some sort of new discovery in scientific thinking. Like Snipa said, it's a semantic point, a precursor to try and force acceptance of nonsensical societal pressures.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 14 2022 09:33am)

Sex and gender, in typical parlance, are words that represent a cluster of characteristics. Men can be feminine and women can be manly. This only became controversial when a certain group wanted to be cruel to trans people.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 14 2022 11:31am)

It's not even in the same galaxy as the outer edge. If this happened with rates of like 1 per 1000 we can talk about it maybe, but this has a rate ranging from .5 to 5 per 100,000. So we're going to toss out the binary reality that represents 99.99995% of people because of .00005%?

And once again, this is isn't happening because there has been some sort of new discovery in scientific thinking. Like Snipa said, it's a semantic point, a precursor to try and force acceptance of nonsensical societal pressures.