It is truly amazing to me that somebody would be upset with Russia for violating the "non-aggression principle" but ignore the fact that Ukraine had been shelling their own nation's citizens for the past 8 years non-stop, and prior to the Russian intervention was even planning a "final solution" for their Donbass "issue", which they wanted to resolve by brute force and mass murder.

You guys should see me right now. I am literally ROFL'ing

I only call you all idiots when you keep talking about how much I'm getting "paid to post" or whatever silly nonsense, or if I see something that looks like it was blatantly ripped out from CNN.

If you want to think Russia are shitstains, fine. The difference is, because I'm acutely aware of everything Ukraine has done since 2014, and I'm aware that Russia hasn't done anything close as brutal or horrible as to what the Ukrainian regime has done to their *own people* in the past 8 years, I am inclined to believe Russia's version of events. It also helps in my view that Russia was primarily responsible for saving Syria from being totally taken over by ISIS at the last minute, which at the time was also a matter of vital importance to me.

If Putin were to do something truly bad and clearly self-serving, sure, I would be upset. But the Ukrainian operation does not qualify in my book. The facts are, Ukraine broke the Minsk agreements, they had a chance for peace but rejected it. Destroying Donbass and joining NATO were both red-lines for Russia. What did they think would happen? The people of Donbass did not deserve to get wiped out at the hands of violent radicals, just as the people of Syria did not deserve to have to suffer at the hands of US-backed Al-nusra.

If you want decent sources, then there are two independent blogs I follow:

https://thesaker.is/

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

The saker is a former European intelligence agent that moved to Florida and blogs from the US. Moon of Alabama I'm not 100% on, but I'm pretty sure he's an american.

@ bold: I have an excellent bullshit detector. That is a bunch of it.

Russia should have gone through proper channels, or at the VERY WORST, limited themselves to the Donbas. But they attacked the whole fucking country, so the thin veneer of morality they were ostensibly clinging to was irrevocably lost. You overplayed your hand badly, and you deserve to fail for it.

how many children did russia kill in ukraine this year?

so you want us to trust your impending operation radar after missing the ukrainian invasion by a mile? the boy who wouldnt cry wolf wont be listened to, but keep posting if u like.

Dunno, but not as many as Ukraine

you don't know, but not as many as...

how old are you?

:)))

Ever heard of Angel Alley? It is a street in Donetsk dedicated to the memorials of some 500 children that were murdered in Donetsk alone by the Ukrainian army.

One of the first things DPR does when they capture a Ukrainian soldier, is they take them for a forced tour down angel alley, forcing them to see the true ugly nature of what they have been doing to Donbass for the past 8 years.

any proof of that? ukraine has proof of what russia raped and murdered.

His numbers are all opinion. He has no facts.

Ty