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Mar 10 2022 07:07am
Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 9 2022 06:05pm)
What did the nazi's do wrong in the eyes of the west other than invade czechoslovakia.
Britan Gleefully supported them up until that point and wanted them to eventually invade russia.


just a few million or so murders is all.
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Mar 10 2022 07:20am
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just a few million or so murders is all.

which a lot of the western media covered up for years as it happened, including the nyt

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damn, really thought this would be a multi year transition

eh this has been in the works for some time, just got accelerated now
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which a lot of the western media covered up for years as it happened, including the nyt


eh this has been in the works for some time, just got accelerated now


western media which is run by the jews covered up the murder of jews?

but ya, im well aware the the Holocaust was used as hindsight justification for WW2 when the real concern was Hitler's march across the continent. they'd have let him build 100,000 ovens before they did anything if he didnt jump to Denmark, Poland, France, etc.
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Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Mar 2022 09:09)
western media which is run by the jews covered up the murder of jews?

but ya, im well aware the the Holocaust was used as hindsight justification for WW2 when the real concern was Hitler's march across the continent. they'd have let him build 100,000 ovens before they did anything if he didnt jump to Denmark, Poland, France, etc.

it’s wiki but ironically yes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buried_by_the_Times

It argues that the news was often buried in the back pages in part due to the view about Judaism of the paper's Jewish publisher, Arthur Hays Sulzberger. It also gives a critical look at the work of Times correspondents in Europe.

The book received critical acclaim and was the recipient of the best media history book from the American Journalism Historians Association.
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Mar 10 2022 11:06am
Ukraine is one of the biggest wheat producers in the world, Russia is one of biggest exporter of fertiliser and its components. If there isn't a sound solution to the conflict more people are going to die from starvation all over the world than from the conflict itself. Then, prices on all essential goods are going to skyrocket. Did we really need this after the covid crisis? Which idiot dems and idiot Russians up top including Putin thought it was a good idea?
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Mar 10 2022 12:17pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 10 2022 08:07am)
just a few million or so murders is all.


I said in the eyes of western countries before, Brittan and frace supported him until that point germany had a new age thulean religion since the 1880's that's manifest destiny was in the east they wanted germany to take russia with all its power.
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I said in the eyes of western countries before, Brittan and frace supported him until that point germany had a new age thulean religion since the 1880's that's manifest destiny was in the east they wanted germany to take russia with all its power.


i'm not sure i understand your point, WW2's initial phase in 1939 saw both the invasion of Poland and Czechoslovakia, both of which enflamed their allies in the British and French.

are you saying they supported Hitler as a domestic leader of Germany from 1933 to 1939. in which case even if it's true and i'm sure in many respects it is, so what? sure, he had unilateral support from all over Europe as a person who was reviving the German economy after the WW1 fallout.

and of course cheering him on as he marches eastward towards the Soviets was a win for all more or less, if he fails so what, the allies lost nothing, if he wins good too then the soviets lose ground. in any case the soviets lose resources.

edit: i may see your point, are you saying preceeding the "we cheered on the soviets for beating nazis" point there was a "we cheered on the nazis for taking soviets" part to the circle? i'd need to read up on the pre-Polish invasion views on Hitler by allied nations. i dont have much there in the memory bank.

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Mar 10 2022 06:36pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 10 2022 08:07am)
just a few million or so murders is all.


specifically, they:
instituted a fascist secret police
killed POW's and civilians without regard
committed torture and murder against their own citizens and others because of vague concepts of racial superiority
and enlisted children into the defenses as they were losing

the allies firebombed Dresden too so they aren't perfect, but that only happened after literal years of Germany violating the Geneva convention, and not giving up after their whole army was dead.
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Mar 10 2022 06:42pm
I would say this sucks for russia but they will just get all their tech via china.
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Mar 10 2022 08:42pm
$10,000 is 1,337,000 Russian rubles

Fate?

Also, breaking international law and committing war crimes have consequences. The amount of Russian simping is deplorable (heh)

This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 10 2022 08:45pm
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