ROFL if reality was only so simple and convenient.

So did it fall upon the police at the scene to declare they would refuse to do their jobs? This was a lawful search warrant, signed by a judge. It was the product of an institution of sociologists, judges, boards of review, politicians and their executive staff, all who created a system where no-knock search warrants were legal and enforceable despite the fact they clearly value the risk of losing evidence over the risk of losing lives. None of those administrators or bureaucrats ever took a stand that would cost them their jobs if they refused to enforce a lawful, binding warrant. So it falls on the cops standing outside the door to make the moral decision that they'll sacrifice their own careers rather than become responsible for the risks hoisted upon them by a broken system?

Maybe some on both sides of the aisle will be sated by the blood sacrifice of another officer, but I see a broken system and its the system that needs fixing. Its the same criminal justice system that brought us 'recidivist felon on his 30th conviction being given his 30th suspended sentence' and 'send someone to prison for the rest of their life for murder even if they provably did not cause a death'. They were searching for evidence that prosecutors would have completely disregarded anyway. Its the same political culture that made the South Education Center in Richfield respond to the crime wave by removing its metal detectors and police from campus last year, only to have students walking around with guns on campus and shooting each other to death this year. Its the reason Mayor Frey's commission on criminal justice reform was itself a board filled with criminals like the fake charity that defrauded the government out of millions in fake meal programs for children. Its the reason he got to campaign on having banned no-knock warrants without banning no-knock warrants.

What would happen to the officers who refused to serve a lawful search warrant, signed by a judge? What would happen to the officers who didn't shoot first when a startled man draws a gun on them in the dark and chaotic scene? Life-destroying consequences. What would happen to policy makers and guideline commissioners and their staff and analysts and judges who corrupt the system, jeopardize our public safety and sweep their fraud under the rug? Nothing. They'll champion the cause of the folks who chant Amir Locke's name and march so righteously aggrieved. Less than nothing, it will accelerate the poison they've introduced into the system and secure their reelection.

SWAT testimonials

This is only a problem because Democrats can't fucking govern. Someone needs to grow some balls and get these fuckers out of office forever!

What is the homicide rate in the city? Does anyone care? Does the news talk about it?

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 4 2022 05:13pm

There's a good reason for a law abiding citizen to keep a legal weapon by his bed when he sleeps in Minneapolis

https://twitter.com/TheoKeith/status/1489737205337755648

Mayor Frey, who campaigned so proudly on the fact that he banned the use of no-knock warrants, today issued a declaration banning the use of no-knock warrants. Except it actually allows the use of no-knock warrants, again, just saying that the police chief must sign off on it and claim there's an imminent threat. Which of course means, that for the second time he is claiming to have banned no-knock warrants without banning no-knock warrants.

I think it was a pretty messed up situation, I can't fault a non knock given that it was for a homicide situation nor can I knock Amir for legally possessing a firearm and grabbing it when he heard a bump in the night because I would do the same thing. I'm wondering if using a less than lethal like a flashbang or CS gas before entry should become policy for no knocks in the future.

MN System is broken, especially in Twin Cities region, that's why I got out in 2016. Was burdened by a felon that our state system let out early during COVID myself, asshole skipped title on a car I sold and was driving it around while having felony warrants out. Minnesota State DMV response was it's a civil matter. Same with PD, and they don't tow unregistered title skip cars for 90 days past expiration, great for accumulating tickets and other violations. Appeal process is a vent box, you could present signed bill of sale and forensic DNA and they laugh. Only way to fix is to bribe district court with $300. Great state for felons right now. I'm still baffled how a felon with warrants driving a car unregistered is considered a civil matter.


That no knock is bullshit though. Endangers both parties and creates huge civil liabilities settlements for tax payers constituents who keep voting these politicians in.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Feb 4 2022 09:07pm

It's a question of liability. Everyone trying to pass it around like hot potato. Not just in law enforcement.

Individual police decisions are shouldered by the whole department which has its pros and cons but it dramatically shifts the attitude. Imagine if individuals were liable, would that cop be as trigger happy? Hell no
No knock search warrants while questionable are not the main problem. The training of when to shoot should be drastically revised. Not only that but the liability of making a wrong/careless call needs to be felt among the ranks.

Public servants need to have a greater accountability especially those who hold guns

Because Democrats literally send cops to jail for doing their job.

You're blind as fuck. You're smarter than this.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 4 2022 09:41pm