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Nov 28 2021 02:43am
Quote (KRR @ Nov 28 2021 03:37am)
This strain is way more contagious but 100x less deadly.
But since more people will have this strain when they die ( likely of other causes ) = higher covid mortality rate.
= profit for big pharma and the guvment



It is all just superficial numbers to me at this point. I have seen what I need to see. I had Covid over a year ago. Sucked but whatever everybody gets sick right? Now we find out the cdc doesn’t even officially study natural infection in relation to reinfection, or reinfection in relation to the vaccine.

It is just all so irrelevant to me at this point. We can argue over numbers we can argue which statistics are important and which are not, it doesn’t change one thing. The conversations should be happening at high levels of our government and they are not.

I believe it was Jim Jordan who recently pointed out what a joke Covid talks are in DC. Not anywhere near the first but the most recent in my memory. I am paraphrasing here but basically the doctors who present information are being shut down by the lawyers in the government. It is a fucking joke.

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Nov 28 2021 02:50am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 28 2021 02:43am)
It is all just superficial numbers to me at this point. I have seen what I need to see. I had Covid over a year ago. Sucked but whatever everybody gets sick right? Now we find out the cdc doesn’t even officially study natural infection in relation to reinfection, or reinfection in relation to the vaccine.

It is just all so irrelevant to me at this point. We can argue over numbers we can argue which statistics are important and which are not, it doesn’t change one thing. The conversations should be happening at high levels of our government and they are not.

I believe it was Jim Jordan who recently pointed out what a joke Covid talks are in DC. Not anywhere near the first but the most recent in my memory. I am paraphrasing here but basically the doctors who present information are being shut down by the lawyers in the government. It is a fucking joke.



Yes our country is fukt in that regard.
Meanwhile you have countries like Germany that don’t require vaccination if you can prove you’ve had covid and the antibodies . Aka utilizing real science lol USA pretends our bodies natural immunity is worthless compared to their unstudied vax
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Nov 28 2021 02:53am
Quote (KRR @ Nov 28 2021 02:37am)
This strain is way more contagious but likely 100x less deadly.
But since more people will have this strain when they die ( likely of other causes ) = higher covid mortality rate.
= profit for big pharma and the guvment


This is a hasty conclusion IMO. I doubt there's enough evidence to conclude with any degree of confidence that it's less deadly. I'm seeing conflicting results when I search, so we're just going to have to wait and see.
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Nov 28 2021 02:55am
Quote (Sioux @ Nov 27 2021 10:29pm)
Good thing vaccination lowers your risk of contracting covid in the first place. You can't spread what you didn't catch.


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Nov 28 2021 04:21am
Quote (Handcuffs @ 27 Nov 2021 02:24)
My initial readings are showing that the doctors/scientists in South Africa are saying that cases thus far are mild. Reassuring, I suppose.

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This is a hasty conclusion IMO. I doubt there's enough evidence to conclude with any degree of confidence that it's less deadly. I'm seeing conflicting results when I search, so we're just going to have to wait and see.

The quote from the South African doctor has been badly misconstrued. She didn't say that all omicron infections are mild, she said that the infections she has seen so far have been mild - and the sample only contained young people.
It's the equivalent of someone in February 2020 seeing a couple dozen of cases of the ancestral Wuhan strain in young people and everyone (incorrectly) concludes that "it's just a cold".

Fact is that we don't know yet if omicron will cause more or less severe cases when let loose on an elderly, fat-as-fuck Western population.



Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 27 Nov 2021 09:13)
Do we have enough information to make that determination? If so, that's great! We expect variants to get milder as time goes on because killing your host is not good for business. We'll basically move from totally ignoring flu seasons to having Covid seasons with occasional mask orders.

This is the long-term trend for zoonoses because viruses tend to adapt to their new host over time - but in the short run, the there is little evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less virulent when the most infectious period is 4-5 days post infection and deaths typically occur much later, after 10-20 days (untreated).

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Nov 28 2021 04:34am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 28 2021 02:53am)
This is a hasty conclusion IMO. I doubt there's enough evidence to conclude with any degree of confidence that it's less deadly. I'm seeing conflicting results when I search, so we're just going to have to wait and see.



What’s annoying is all the front pages of multiple browsers being ridden with low quality research or opinionated news articles when trying to actually conduct research on the matter lol. Takes a fricken hour just to find unbiased research over anything viral or covid related these days.

Finding the article on WHO saying it’s a mild variant is now long lost and it was just a few days ago <_<
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Nov 28 2021 05:18am
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What’s annoying is all the front pages of multiple browsers being ridden with low quality research or opinionated news articles when trying to actually conduct research on the matter lol. Takes a fricken hour just to find unbiased research over anything viral or covid related these days.

Finding the article on WHO saying it’s a mild variant is now long lost and it was just a few days ago <_<


I saw the WHOs announcement a few days ago calling it a variant of interest but nothing about it being a milder variant. I think you got duped.
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Nov 28 2021 05:37am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 28 Nov 2021 12:18)
I saw the WHOs announcement a few days ago calling it a variant of interest but nothing about it being a milder variant. I think you got duped.


They never classified it as a variant of interest, it was immediately labelled a variant of concern.
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Nov 28 2021 06:18am
At a biological level, why would it be less deadly? Whats the mechanism of action to change its deadliness? It has significant alterations to the spike protein, which if anything most likely point to it resisting vaccines, but what more conclusions can we draw at a biological level?
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