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Nov 23 2021 09:32pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 22 2021 12:24pm)
This is actually pure Marxist theory. It’s called False Consciousness by Engels.

Fox also removed this and forced him to take a vacation after he aired it.

Get educated: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness

Edit: ugh fix your website video embeds.

Edit 2: double fuck the video is clipped too short. Oh well.

Edit 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TezByKmNVXE



Lolllol

Being angry at the super rich for controlling everything is not communism. Its populism. Communists are angry at the super rich because they stand in the way of THEM becoming bloodthirsty rich warlords. Populists are angry at the super rich because they want more freedom. Big difference.

Nice try attempting to co-opt the class issue as strictly a commie one tho. Now fuck off back to your hole.
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Nov 23 2021 09:36pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 10:31pm)
Your basic assumption is that cities provide something of value to farms. My contention is simply that you're wrong. Why are you wrong? Because as it stands right now, cities only provide appliance production, machinery production, and power to farms. Power has become so spotty that a dam is the way to go, all production for farming equipment is now sourced from china, and that's the end of the line. Now, I can go and utilize the natural resources from the mountain next to me to build machines, except the government says I can't use those resources. What happens when you collapse that government? Now, I can produce my own equipment, my own power (since you can't tell me no), and my own food.

Quite literally, American Cities have become useless. You provide nothing to the true producers in America: The farmers. You want to talk about the Communist ideal, yet the communist ideal causes people to starve. And I just pointed out why. The first thing you have to do is convince me I should give up ownership of what is mine, which I refuse to do. Then you have to take it from me, usually by means of murder. I'm now dead, and you don't know how to do what I do. So now you bring thousands of people to my land to do what I alone did before. In the process of figuring out how to do it, millions die, because they have no source of food.

Do you start to understand, or should I type slower, because you don't read fast?



The Corporation has no local stake. The incorporated town has 100% of stake in the town. As a communist, you should honestly support the incorporated town, it's the closest thing in the modern world to true Communism, and the two of us could possibly agree on it's value.


itt: "agrarian" Marxists smoking crack cocaine, angry, needing to convince the world their narrow view is correct
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Nov 23 2021 09:42pm
Quote (shadewiz07 @ 23 Nov 2021 19:36)
itt: "agrarian" Marxists smoking crack cocaine, angry, needing to convince the world their narrow view is correct


I nominate this post for the "Most Useless Generalizations of PaRD 2021 Awards". It is that time of year, folks. Keep it in mind.
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Nov 23 2021 09:43pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 09:20pm)
False premise. Capitalism requires that the owners of the capital enforce their own property rights. No government is needed. We can go all the way back to Corporate Scrip to understand just how blatantly STUPID your post is.

Do better.


In the situation you just described there are no property rights. The person who can threaten the most force gets the property. End of story. That's not capitalism.
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Nov 23 2021 09:44pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 10:42pm)
I nominate this post for the "Most Useless Generalizations of PaRD 2021 Awards". It is that time of year, folks. Keep it in mind.


i am enormously happy to be nominated! best of luck to the other nominees!
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 23 Nov 2021 19:43)
In the situation you just described there are no property rights. The person who can threaten the most force gets the property. End of story. That's not capitalism.


So your argument is that because of government, there are no property rights, therefore, capitalism is at fault, when the very nature of capitalism is that those who own the capital, control the capital?

Sounds like you're arguing that America is NOT capitalist, but instead Socialist, and all of your talk against capitalism is meaningless. Did I miss something, or are you pulling a big stupid?
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Nov 23 2021 09:45pm
I think Bob has forgotten what the sickle in the sickle and hammer stands for.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 07:45pm)
So your argument is that because of government, there are no property rights, therefore, capitalism is at fault, when the very nature of capitalism is that those who own the capital, control the capital?

Sounds like you're arguing that America is NOT capitalist, but instead Socialist, and all of your talk against capitalism is meaningless. Did I miss something, or are you pulling a big stupid?



You got everything that he said backwards.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 10:45pm)
So your argument is that because of government, there are no property rights, therefore, capitalism is at fault, when the very nature of capitalism is that those who own the capital, control the capital?

Sounds like you're arguing that America is NOT capitalist, but instead Socialist, and all of your talk against capitalism is meaningless. Did I miss something, or are you pulling a big stupid?


your intellectual opponent pull big stupid. you real smart nice a capable get it good logic smart. for sure.
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Nov 23 2021 09:50pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Nov 2021 19:46)
You got everything that he said backwards.


Interesting. Let's take that statement from a math standpoint:

2+2=4

4=2+2

Seems, based on your words, my summary was correct. Or would you like to clarify?
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