Act like you are unaware of the secretary of transportation’s triumphant return from his two month vacation making the rounds talking about those white supremacist roads. >_> okay.

Everybody who owned land where they built interstates had to give it up one way or another. You can’t honestly tell me it was only black people that had to move. That is absurd.

I never said it was only black people, but black people were specifically targeted during construction.

I know lots of white farmers who had to give up their land as well, but they aren't an entire community of people that got uprooted for the economic prosperity of the white part of town.

Capitalism is when you are forced to produce shit and be a productive member of society. It's a system where men and women can have a great lifestyle for themselves and their families. All they have to do is participate in business and not be a simp.
It is a system whereby anyone can make it. You are rewarded according to your contribution or lack thereof. You are given the opportunity to amass power and wealth as much as you can. There are restrictions and regulation but the world is your oyster. A peasant born from the streets can become somebody. It drives our society to new frontiers and progress like no other system before it.

Socialism - it must be paired with capitalism to help the actual unfortunate/unlucky individuals. Essentially it's a toned down version of communism with core social welfare and redistribution of wealth. However this system is essentially a bandaid for progress. It keeps some of the ruthless capitalism abusers in check and essentially a forced be good and don't get too greedy policy.

Communism - an idealistic fairy tale about workers owning shit and redistribution of all wealth and resources among everyone. However it goes against human nature and is super highly abusable centralised power system where it takes one or two non saints to completely turn it into a totalitarian dictatorship. Which has been pretty much every time that has been attempted. In short you are not insentivised to do anything exciting because there is a cap on how much you can make. Productivity goes down and people end up starving.

You implied that it was specifically black people. Leaving out that there are people of all colors in poor neighborhoods. I was one of them. Aside from that, there were two holes in your logic I am going to point out here.

First, an interstate highway would take up two city blocks, tops. Inner city interstates are super narrow and congested. This does not constitute entire communities being displaced. You paint a picture where the entire neighborhood is packing up their wagons and heading west. You are grossly exaggerating this.

Second, being that you conceded the fact that white farmers also had to give up land, you have conceded the fact that this wasn’t a target on black people. You can’t have it both ways.

Yes, it was unfortunate that anybody had their life disrupted by technological progress. Every form of progress effects different groups of people differently. The problem is people want to say the divide is among race, when it is not. This is how the left pushes their agenda. They pull on heart strings and get people to become emotionally involved in the agenda.

What do you think the infrastructure bill is going to accomplish? Are you insinuating they are going to completely reroute the interstates and give families their plots back? Again, absurd. They are going to allocate money for certain projects. The ends will have no impact on any racial issues.

So why is the argument to get this done based on false narratives about racism, when the end game is about funding projects to purchase new eco friendly equipment and maybe fix some old structures?

It is so obvious. This is not a race issue, it is a spending issue. Therefore to people who do not make emotionally charged decisions, the whole proposal is ridiculous. If the spending is justified, they would sell it as the spending is justified. They decide instead to say racism this inequity that.

What does race have to do with buying electric busses?

What does race have to do with charging stations?

What does race have to do with trains?

What does race have to do with high speed internet?

What does race have to do with water and electricity?

Do you see my point?

Dude, have you ever seen highway construction? It doesn't just tear down the 2 blocks around it. It tears up multiple blocks on both sides the entire length.

I think you should actually look into the history, because you're talking authoritatively about something you again have no clue about. Again.

and I expect that you will get mad and stomp your feet and call me an idiot.

I absolutely can have it both ways. The difference here is that black parts of town were targeted even when they weren't the optimal route, and farmers were incidental. It's like if you fire into a crowd of black people and just happen to hit a white guy in the background. Yeah, both races got hit, but one was targeted and suffered excessive losses.


The rest of this is not related in the slightest to what I posted. I think you're trying to pin Buttigieg's comments on me, and I don't even know what they are. Stop being so triggered and deal with what's in front of you, not what you wish was in front of you.

You basically quoted the first thing he has said publicly in months. Like I said as if on cue. Scroll up dude >_>

I grew up in Pawtucket ri. 95 cuts the city in half. Did my entire childhood deceive me on the space the interstates take up? Directly to the east bordering 95 is the nicer part of the city (if you can call any of it nicer). The poor people live closer to downtown and in central falls which is a good four five blocks west.

Two city blocks is about a quarter mile in a tight city. You are saying the demolish an area larger than that to build four lanes of road?

Even your analogy of shooting into a crowd is ridiculous. Building the interstates took years of planning they didn’t just draw a line and say there it is. They had to make a safe route for traffic going highway speeds to reach key parts of the city. That was the main goal, safety and convenience.

Say they did cut through black neighborhoods when it wasn’t necessary. Did they fail to include an on ramp? If so then you have an argument because that would mean they displaced them AND cut them off from using the road. I am sure you could find an example or two of that, but you haven’t done anything but tell me i don’t know what I am talking about.

You still haven’t even addressed how this has any relevance to today. This is important because the only reason you brought this up I had explained in my previous post, which you chose to leave out when you quoted me. You are ignorantly being a pawn in their plan to spend money on things not everybody agrees with.

tl;dr: the deaths under capitalism are circumstantial, but the deaths under communism are due to communism.

Communism is a terrible system, but this line of thinking of yours is nothing short of cognitive dissonance.

You basically said what he said but shorter.

There is a great video out there from these people that went to Cuba to document how terrible it is.