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Wow all I had to do was post that you can still choose not to get vaxxed and all the right wingers here have suddenly turned into Karl Marx.
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Sep 11 2021 05:29pm
The vaccinated are far more religious:

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Sep 11 2021 07:06pm
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I like this line of thinking, because it highlights how capitalism has been tooled to screw everybody over. You have a choice between participating in capitalism or starving. There's basically nowhere else to go in the entire world. Now, that's not to say that means you have some inherent right to enforce your economic system on everybody else, but it is to say that the idea that capitalism allows choice is fundamentally false.


Nonsensical post. "Capitalism" does not prevent market transactions. Only government.

This is a natural feature of fascism, aka the government "allowing" private ownership and private business, but dictating how that private ownership or private business can interact.
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Nonsensical post. "Capitalism" does not prevent market transactions. Only government.

This is a natural feature of fascism, aka the government "allowing" private ownership and private business, but dictating how that private ownership or private business can interact.


Suppose I don't want to participate in capitalism. I just want to, like, live and be left alone. Sorry, you can't. Ancaps like to blame the state, but in reality the blame for that is capitalism. We had governments that would leave people alone for thousands of years. It's only after the advent of capitalism that we saw governments monopolize control over every square inch.
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Sep 11 2021 07:12pm
My religion only lets me lust after chubby iranian men. It's a burden, but I get through it.
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Suppose I don't want to participate in capitalism. I just want to, like, live and be left alone. Sorry, you can't. Ancaps like to blame the state, but in reality the blame for that is capitalism. We had governments that would leave people alone for thousands of years. It's only after the advent of capitalism that we saw governments monopolize control over every square inch.


Odd how communism does the same thing, except worse. So far, we haven't welded people's doors shut, or tossed them in concentration camps. Though Australia seems to be leading the way on that second score. :)
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Odd how communism does the same thing, except worse. So far, we haven't welded people's doors shut, or tossed them in concentration camps. Though Australia seems to be leading the way on that second score. :)


Of course communism does it, if you are in the commune. That's what communism is. Commune-ism.

I disagree that it "does it but worse". That's only "true" because we have been conditioned to separate capitalism from its atrocities, but the opposite for communism.

If the trail of tears happened under communism, you'd use that as a strike against communism. but it happened under capitalism, so nobody is going to say "capitalism did that". Like, all capitalist countries basically genocided natives simultaneously for 200 years and they aren't counted because of this training to separate concepts.



and just to prove my point, I encourage you to do some research into those "communism killed X people"numbers. They tend to include things like Nazis killed by Russia in WW2 as "casualties of communism".

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 11 2021 07:30pm
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Of course communism does it, if you are in the commune. That's what communism is. Commune-ism.

I disagree that it "does it but worse". That's only "true" because we have been conditioned to separate capitalism from its atrocities, but the opposite for communism.

If the trail of tears happened under communism, you'd use that as a strike against communism. but it happened under capitalism, so nobody is going to say "capitalism did that". Like, all capitalist countries basically genocided natives simultaneously for 200 years and they aren't counted because of this training to separate concepts.

and just to prove my point, I encourage you to do some research into those "communism killed X people"numbers. They tend to include things like Nazis killed by Russia in WW2 as "casualties of communism".


Everything you're saying is stupid. Just pure trash. Either there is private property or there isn't. Either you own your body and your labor or you don't. If you do, then you trade your labor, you trade your property, for an agreeable level of compensation. This is the basis behind peaceful human interaction. Any other method involves force.

If you truly believe capitalism is evil, let's try it the other way, where 0.01% (the governing leadership) owns you, your property, and all your labor, and then dictates what you take back (communism), or pure anarchy, where you only own something (including yourself) if you're strong enough to enforce your ownership. Sorry, no obese landwhale on the planet stands a chance. Reorient your thinking, any scenario other than that which you currently live in, you're the first to fall. :)
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The vaccinated are far more religious:

https://i.ibb.co/C9cbsNq/yta0boaviym71.png



They follow the religion known as “science” and “rational thought”

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Sep 11 2021 08:21pm
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Everything you're saying is stupid. Just pure trash. Either there is private property or there isn't. Either you own your body and your labor or you don't. If you do, then you trade your labor, you trade your property, for an agreeable level of compensation. This is the basis behind peaceful human interaction. Any other method involves force.

If you truly believe capitalism is evil, let's try it the other way, where 0.01% (the governing leadership) owns you, your property, and all your labor, and then dictates what you take back (communism), or pure anarchy, where you only own something (including yourself) if you're strong enough to enforce your ownership. Sorry, no obese landwhale on the planet stands a chance. Reorient your thinking, any scenario other than that which you currently live in, you're the first to fall. :)



You literally just described capitalism and called it communism.
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