sure, that one (perhaps a couple more) pro(s) definitely outweigh all the cons....

and one part about that pro.. they have had plenty of problems with having enough medical staff. Sure, they have plenty of doctors, but the elite there trade their doctors services for oil etc. IDK if they still are, but for a while doctors were one of Cuba's biggest exports. I'm not fully read up on this topic, but to point out so few benefits to an obviously inferior system (not to mention the enormous difference in size and population of your comparison) is completely unfair.

incentives influence behavior, and when you remove incentives for hard work and dedication, the obvious happens. capitalism isn't the perfect system. far from it, but communism / socialism are objectively far worse.

This post was edited by Donahey on Jun 7 2021 05:16pm

Couldn’t agree more.

As humans, any system we create will never be perfect.

But to compare the economic model that has pulled more people out of poverty than any other to an oppressive system like socialism will never
Hold merit (where, like I said above about socialism, they can’t get access to basic life necessities and can be run over by government tanks for simply disagreeing)

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 7 2021 05:19pm

Australian doctors do just fine..

from what i've heard, they do! I don't disagree that the US health system is garbage, there is way too much overhead/administration (same could be said about universities with the crazy increases in prices over the past few decades, when the quality of the education has not increased with it (arguably decreased)) Health insurance companies make tens of billions of dollars a year without really producing anything, they just distribute the costs, and overall cost people more than the healthcare itself. I'm not ignorant, i know why health insurance exists, because of expensive emergencies and surgeries, but there needs to be more transparency in costs, etc. Perhaps a more centralized health system would be better than we have now, idk if you live in the US or not, gov't can't even keep our damn roads from becoming swiss cheese, and when they do get fixed, many times it's well above market price. You have to acknowledge people's skepticism to completely overhauling one of the most important systems there is. IDK what is better, but I do know that removing incentives is not a way to improve people's lives so Cuba is a terrible example, maybe you should have started with Australia.

This post was edited by Donahey on Jun 7 2021 05:42pm

The fundamental issue is the neo-liberalism championed by Reagan and Bush. The Republican playbook for the past 50-70 years has been to actively destroy government institutions while shouting "look, it's a government program failing". (and Democrats have largely just gone along with it since they were scared of contradicting the thing they thought resulted in Reagan's electoral landslide)

The post office is a great example. It's been actively kneecapped for decades and still fills the holes left by USPS and Fedex while remaining profitable. The only reason it's been failing is because it's been legally disallowed from innovating, and legally required to fund all of its benefits decades ahead of time.

That is the fundamental reason why our infrastructure is crumbling and why there's the perception of "government can't do anything right". It's a "prediction" that has been actively caused by neo-liberals.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 7 2021 05:46pm

American last generations = Joke .

Nothing like their ancestors who died to give them the best country in the world.

Look at the state of America in 2021.

would still walk over canada in <24 hours. take a chill pill.

You guys got owned by peasants in the middle east and ruined your whole country financially over a defeat. Just look at y'all military recruitment video. You guys recruiting drag queens.



This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Jun 7 2021 06:47pm

Getting "owned" by anyone <> a sneak attack in which airplanes were flown into commercial buildings involved in world economics, killing thousands. That's "jumping". We also killed the guy who masterminded that with our own armed forces "hands" - no proxy.

I will give you a fair chance to elaborate, but, I am not sure what else I am to take away from this. I will never call terrorism "owning" anyone - American or not.

9/11 was an inside job to bring a police state and invade the middle east for their drug $ and oil $ before the Russian/Chinese do so. Same reasons we had proxy wars in Syria (pipeline route) and now have proxy war @ Palestine vs Israel.

Lot of people don't understand economic.

Just look all the non Chinese peons who praise Tiktok not understanding it's a copy pasta of our American counterpart and instead of using our platform, they end up using TikTok bringing tons of $ to China through ads and other means. They are funding our enemy because they can't do 1+1.

Dhgate...
Aliexpress...

We're funding China to get fucked by... *Drumroll*

CHINA!

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Jun 7 2021 06:54pm