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Apr 25 2021 01:04pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 07:16pm)
cases go up and down with flu season
it is estimated 1.5 billion masks already pollute the ocean
masks have toxins in them due to treatment and/of recycled plastics
turns out the super duper green people are the biggest polluters :)


How are people that advocate masks super green? Wheres the connection.

Mask pollution is a real concern though along with all forms of plastic pollution.
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Apr 25 2021 01:15pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 12:02)
Also getting covid is far more dangerous than getting a nloodclot in most hut the most severe cases.


More bullshit. 10-30% of those diagnosed with Venous Thromboembolism (blood clots) die within a month of diagnosis. Overall death rate among those who contracted covid, globally, is just under 2%. And if you look at the age range of "under 40" it drops to 0.2% (aka less deadly than the flu).

It's not 2020. Nobody is interested in hearing your lies. Covid is a nasty piece of work, but when it comes to fatalities or even lifelong impact, it's nowhere near as bad as blood clots. Not even close. What next? Going to compare it to ebola?

And regarding the nonsense with football players and other professional athletes being "in bubbles" wtf are you talking about? Did you not pay attention to game cancellations and postponements, teams, coaches, staff, and players getting fined left and right during the 2020 season because they were NOT observing covid protocols?

Why don't you try to stick with facts rather than your alarmist garbage and pipe dreams. Here you are trying to set yourself up as some form of reasonable authority that should be listened to, and you're making wild and completely inaccurate claims about covid being deadlier than blood clots? Just stop.
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Apr 25 2021 01:30pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 12:02pm)
"masks cause a increase in co2 and a decrease in o2. it gets worse as activity goes up. bullied kids just dont know enough or are to scared to take their mask off. its asinine and child abuse to bully kids into wearing masks and masks dont protect from covid"

What I've read, is that this is a myth.

The point about pneumonia is valid and I accept there is a I increased risk of that. However it is very low and only prevalent in people with pre existing respiratory issues.

"you dont see football players wearing masks when they are playing and they are in top physical condition, that should tell you something"

I imagine athletes are vigorously tested, they will also be in closed bubbles and not have contact with people outside of those.
So there is still the risk of transmission but likely much lower than contact with a stranger. It's also a strawman sir.

What is it that those kids you say died due to masks, died of precisely?

There is mitigated risk in everything. It's similar to those vaccine deniers saying that there are a chance of bloodclots with the AstraZeneca vaccine.
There is a higher chance of blood clots during pregnancy.
Also getting covid is far more dangerous than getting a nloodclot in most hut the most severe cases.



whose telling you its a myth is a liar. there is a reason why people complain of headaches and such.
any one can stick a tester under a mask and find out and several people have
AIR QUALITY DEVICE PROVES MASKS UNSAFE FOR WORK
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L5fmFICBC8mh/
AND
if masks do not effect air quality explain this
WEF: 'Smart Mask Tells You When To Wash It', 'When CO2 Is To High & To Take A Fresh Breath'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3nSDiOpqH362/

pneumonia is a risk and documented. there is no evidence masks prevent covid. we have had a year to collect data. and it doesnt show mask mandates working.
no lock downs no masks
"Florida Wins the Lockdown Science War - Hands Down - no problemo!!!" (Mirror, by Ivor Cummins).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/T7v0MAdUqaAW/

foot ball players do wear them when they are not playing so why the difference?

"What is it that those kids you say died due to masks, died of precisely?"
(you become super skeptical when it doesnt fit your narrative but accepting with out question when it does. that is called cognitive bias. the vids tell you as much as the tell me and china isnt exactly honest, alot of that going around.)

you have been lied to about covid and you are late catching up
why do you think they do the fearmongering with "cases" instead of deaths now? and they use tests that give false positives
The CDC have updated their numbers again for coronavirus. COVID19 rarely cause of death
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PwRvXLFC454B/
its all been lies since flatten the curve

consider
THE TERRIBLE HIDDEN LOCKDOWN EFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9sx6Gj3MA6Kl/
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Apr 25 2021 01:39pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 12:04pm)
How are people that advocate masks super green? Wheres the connection.

Mask pollution is a real concern though along with all forms of plastic pollution.


the left claim to be the green super duper planet people. generally they are the mask people and global cooling ...i mean warming.....i mean climate change all the fearmongering virtuous people. remember when the fear was we gona get bombed by meteorites? that was leftie work. always a state of fear. these days you gona die of the rona rush and get weirdo gates jab. put on a bunch of masks on and hide in your home.
its also political...............but i have to go now

"Mask pollution is a real concern though along with all forms of plastic pollution."
(agree)the pollution from plastice may be worse than you think? you can research things like "toxins in masks".)

btw dr fraudi always been a fraud
H1N1 Epidemic - Lies and Profiteering
https://www.bitchute.com/video/afiB7jgNFp4o/

This post was edited by TiStuff on Apr 25 2021 01:43pm
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 08:30pm)
whose telling you its a myth is a liar. there is a reason why people complain of headaches and such.
any one can stick a tester under a mask and find out and several people have
AIR QUALITY DEVICE PROVES MASKS UNSAFE FOR WORK
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L5fmFICBC8mh/
AND
if masks do not effect air quality explain this
WEF: 'Smart Mask Tells You When To Wash It', 'When CO2 Is To High & To Take A Fresh Breath'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3nSDiOpqH362/

pneumonia is a risk and documented. there is no evidence masks prevent covid. we have had a year to collect data. and it doesnt show mask mandates working.
no lock downs no masks
"Florida Wins the Lockdown Science War - Hands Down - no problemo!!!" (Mirror, by Ivor Cummins).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/T7v0MAdUqaAW/

foot ball players do wear them when they are not playing so why the difference?

"What is it that those kids you say died due to masks, died of precisely?"
(you become super skeptical when it doesnt fit your narrative but accepting with out question when it does. that is called cognitive bias. the vids tell you as much as the tell me and china isnt exactly honest, alot of that going around.)

you have been lied to about covid and you are late catching up
why do you think they do the fearmongering with "cases" instead of deaths now? and they use tests that give false positives
The CDC have updated their numbers again for coronavirus. COVID19 rarely cause of death
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PwRvXLFC454B/
its all been lies since flatten the curve

consider
THE TERRIBLE HIDDEN LOCKDOWN EFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9sx6Gj3MA6Kl/


I've asked you twice what those kids died of. Twice you didn't answer.
This is no longer a debate about masks. You appear to be a conspiracy theorist.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 25 2021 08:15pm)
More bullshit. 10-30% of those diagnosed with Venous Thromboembolism (blood clots) die within a month of diagnosis. Overall death rate among those who contracted covid, globally, is just under 2%. And if you look at the age range of "under 40" it drops to 0.2% (aka less deadly than the flu).

It's not 2020. Nobody is interested in hearing your lies. Covid is a nasty piece of work, but when it comes to fatalities or even lifelong impact, it's nowhere near as bad as blood clots. Not even close. What next? Going to compare it to ebola?

And regarding the nonsense with football players and other professional athletes being "in bubbles" wtf are you talking about? Did you not pay attention to game cancellations and postponements, teams, coaches, staff, and players getting fined left and right during the 2020 season because they were NOT observing covid protocols?

Why don't you try to stick with facts rather than your alarmist garbage and pipe dreams. Here you are trying to set yourself up as some form of reasonable authority that should be listened to, and you're making wild and completely inaccurate claims about covid being deadlier than blood clots? Just stop.


I stand by position on this. Anyone reading can judge for themselves.

You've gone from claiming you don't want to wear a mask because it's your choice, to not wearing one because the vaccine makes it impossible to transmit covid.

Desperatley attacking every post I make does not refute my original point.
Wearing a mask, reduces the chances of infecting others with covid.

Wearing one in enclosed public spaces, is the responsible thing to do. Convince me otherwise.
So far you have not. You've convinced yourself, but I hold myself to a higher standard of rationality.
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Apr 25 2021 01:46pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 12:43pm)
I've asked you twice what those kids died of. Twice you didn't answer.
This is no longer a debate about masks. You appear to be a conspiracy theorist.



I stand by position on this. Anyone reading can judge for themselves.

You've gone from claiming you don't want to wear a mask because it's your choice, to not wearing one because the vaccine makes it impossible to transmit covid.

Desperatley attacking every post I make does not refute my original point.
Wearing a mask, reduces the chances of infecting others with covid.

Wearing one in enclosed public spaces, is the responsible thing to do. Convince me otherwise.
So far you have not. You've convinced yourself, but I hold myself to a higher standard of rationality.


i did answer you have the links is what i said you can know as much as i do. your just working an excuse for your self. i have to go afk. you come to the truth in your own time or not at all.
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Apr 25 2021 02:00pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 12:43)
You've gone from claiming you don't want to wear a mask because it's your choice, to not wearing one because the vaccine makes it impossible to transmit covid.


False. YOU claimed that those who've been vaccinated can still transmit the virus. That claim has no data confirming it, and neither the WHO or the CDC has confirmed it, specifically because there is literally no data to support it. The closest we have to a case study would be Israel, as by percentage of population, they're currently the most vaccinated with the most transparent reporting of numbers. And their cases have floored, all while they've removed outdoor mask mandates and reduced and/or removed indoor mandates depending on type of business. You can feel free to stop lying any time you wish. It'd probably lead to a more productive conversation.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 12:43)
Desperatley attacking every post I make does not refute my original point.
Wearing a mask, reduces the chances of infecting others with covid.


Desperate? Listen mate. You're the person demanding that others wear masks when you don't know the first thing about masks, how to properly wear them, or what impact they have. The bottom line is that when properly worn, surgical masks can prevent up to 60% of passage of the virus. Meaning every breath out you're still going to be exhaling the virus into the air. The hope isn't that it prevents the spread, it's that it'll reduce the viral load to a point where people's immune system may be able to fight it off so they don't get "infected" and develop the Covid "disease". And all that is based on properly wearing masks, aka the same exact protocols followed by doctors and nurses. Which means the first time you touch that mask to adjust it with your filthy hands, you've just fucked it all up. It also assumes you're not wearing the same mask day after day, dooming yourself and everyone in your vicinity to the consequences of a clothe petri dish. Once again, you do not know what you're talking about.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 12:43)
Wearing one in enclosed public spaces, is the responsible thing to do. Convince me otherwise.
So far you have not. You've convinced yourself, but I hold myself to a higher standard of rationality.


I do not need to convince you. Merely point out that you're throwing out a lot of claims that you have no evidence for. You don't know the science in any way, shape or form. You don't know the dangers of using the same mask for days on end. You aren't willing to pay for the masks you claim other people should wear. You don't promote the vaccine that is rated at 95% efficacy, but instead continue promoting policies that've led to over 157 million infections and 3 million deaths.

You may as well stop talking about responsibility. You've not even shown that you're responsible enough to look up the basic information regarding what you're advising prior to attempting to offer medical advise. You lack any form of responsibility whatsoever, and are in no way qualified to dispense medical advise.
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Apr 25 2021 02:23pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 08:46pm)
i did answer you have the links is what i said you can know as much as i do. your just working an excuse for your self. i have to go afk. you come to the truth in your own time or not at all.


Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 25 2021 09:00pm)
False. YOU claimed that those who've been vaccinated can still transmit the virus. That claim has no data confirming it, and neither the WHO or the CDC has confirmed it, specifically because there is literally no data to support it. The closest we have to a case study would be Israel, as by percentage of population, they're currently the most vaccinated with the most transparent reporting of numbers. And their cases have floored, all while they've removed outdoor mask mandates and reduced and/or removed indoor mandates depending on type of business. You can feel free to stop lying any time you wish. It'd probably lead to a more productive conversation.



Desperate? Listen mate. You're the person demanding that others wear masks when you don't know the first thing about masks, how to properly wear them, or what impact they have. The bottom line is that when properly worn, surgical masks can prevent up to 60% of passage of the virus. Meaning every breath out you're still going to be exhaling the virus into the air. The hope isn't that it prevents the spread, it's that it'll reduce the viral load to a point where people's immune system may be able to fight it off so they don't get "infected" and develop the Covid "disease". And all that is based on properly wearing masks, aka the same exact protocols followed by doctors and nurses. Which means the first time you touch that mask to adjust it with your filthy hands, you've just fucked it all up. It also assumes you're not wearing the same mask day after day, dooming yourself and everyone in your vicinity to the consequences of a clothe petri dish. Once again, you do not know what you're talking about.



I do not need to convince you. Merely point out that you're throwing out a lot of claims that you have no evidence for. You don't know the science in any way, shape or form. You don't know the dangers of using the same mask for days on end. You aren't willing to pay for the masks you claim other people should wear. You don't promote the vaccine that is rated at 95% efficacy, but instead continue promoting policies that've led to over 157 million infections and 3 million deaths.

You may as well stop talking about responsibility. You've not even shown that you're responsible enough to look up the basic information regarding what you're advising prior to attempting to offer medical advise. You lack any form of responsibility whatsoever, and are in no way qualified to dispense medical advise.


I'm not asking you or anyone to wear a mask. Im saying the responsible thing to do is wear one.

That's why I wear one. When its appropriate to do so.

I also don't wear a mask for days without washing it or getting a fresh one. That's basic hygiene.

It appears you have more issue with the authority of mask requirements than the actual wearing of a mask.

I know that because all the excuses for not wearing one are so thin of logic.
They gather germs. Yes. So does everything. Your phone. Your toothbrush.
I have asthma. So what? It doesn't interfere with your oxygen levels. It doesn't increase Co2 retention.
I have the vaccine. You can still transmit covid.
It's my body, it's my choice. Thats great. It is still the responsible thing to do, to wear a mask.
So conversely not wearing one by choice, for no valid reason other than a exercise of choice is irresponsible.

The benefits of reduced transmission outweigh the excuses that I've heard so far. Not even slightly, but considerably.

That is supported by experts. Without masks being mandatory, an exponential amount of more people would have caught covid.
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Apr 25 2021 02:25pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 02:43pm)
I've asked you twice what those kids died of. Twice you didn't answer.
This is no longer a debate about masks. You appear to be a conspiracy theorist.



I stand by position on this. Anyone reading can judge for themselves.

You've gone from claiming you don't want to wear a mask because it's your choice, to not wearing one because the vaccine makes it impossible to transmit covid.

Desperatley attacking every post I make does not refute my original point.
Wearing a mask, reduces the chances of infecting others with covid.

Wearing one in enclosed public spaces, is the responsible thing to do. Convince me otherwise.
So far you have not. You've convinced yourself, but I hold myself to a higher standard of rationality.


Just to give you an idea, Bob claimed for months that covid had no chance of overwhelming the healthcare system in the U.S. as hospitals were actively turning away dieing patients, and tried using a CDC article to say masks don't work when the article explicitly said masks do work.

He will fight you for months and then drop the subject like a rock to avoid admitting fault. He will also claim he supports speech and doesnt want to control people while messaging mods to censor anybody who disagrees with him.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 25 2021 02:26pm
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I’m not gonna wear a mask because what the fuck is anyone actually going to do if I don’t?

Vaccines work, get one. If you can’t get one yet then fucking wait at home I guess. Leave normal people alone and let adults make choices.
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