Are you arguing that it is moral to cook people alive in bulls? Just so I understand what I am responding to.

I am not arguing anything. I am asking you why you believe it to be immoral as well as asking for the verses you are referencing.

Murder is bad, ten commandments and Caine and Able parable.

So you believe that God's commandments are moral?

@thesnipa

I thought a bit about this today and my answer would be that the devil is ultimately a deceiver. He tempts us to do the bad thing but we are not really on "his side". He is wholly selfish, sadistic, morally corrupt.

This post was edited by beotos on Mar 26 2021 07:12pm

Some of them are laughable.

Or God is really in control of everything and we can't escape anything. Nothing belongs to anyone and we are all attached to him.

God transcends religion or any type of metaphysical concept; even understanding the universe is transcendent.

This post was edited by beotos on Mar 26 2021 07:33pm

The Bible's description of Satan comes exclusively from his rival's point of view

There is no physical heaven or hell. These are references to nearness and distance to God. Satan is like a mirror within ourselves, always eagerly awaiting for us to choose ourselves over someone else.

when human beings “become illuminated with the radiance of the sun of reality, and ennobled with all the virtues, they esteem this the greatest reward, and they know it to be the true paradise. In the same way they consider that the spiritual punishment…is to be subjected to the world of nature; to be veiled from God; to be brutal and ignorant; to fall into carnal lusts; to be absorbed in animal frailties; to be characterized with dark qualities…these are the greatest punishments and tortures…”

It obviously depends on the reason given.