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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 16 Mar 2021 01:57)
Which UK citizens claim the EU is ruining their brand?
Or is that a scenario you have imagined?

The EU made false assumptions on over 60's and AZ.
The EU president falsely claimed the UK was withholding vaccines from export.
They seem to be having a hard time constructing factual and honest standpoints on this subject. I'd tend not to believe this current claim until more data has been given.


which one? and what exactly did they claim that was false? have a source?
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Quote (Knoppie @ Mar 15 2021 11:35pm)
What is it in your opinion? We're cancelling appointments because we don't want them, or we don't have them? Because it can't be both ^^


It is both. France has stockpiles of AZ vaccines they can't shift and the EU are massively behind on deliveries
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Quote (fender @ Mar 16 2021 01:07am)
which one? and what exactly did they claim that was false? have a source?


Charles Michel. Claimed UK was blocking vaccines leaving the UK.
Which is another false claim in what is already a disastrous handling of its vaccination policy.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/10/vaccine-nationalism-eu-and-uk-in-fresh-row-after-charles-michel-accuses-london-of-export-b

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 16 2021 05:06am)
Charles Michel. Claimed UK was blocking vaccines leaving the UK.
Which is another false claim in what is already a disastrous handling of its vaccination policy.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/10/vaccine-nationalism-eu-and-uk-in-fresh-row-after-charles-michel-accuses-london-of-export-b


The movie Filth has given me an appreciation for Scotland. What's your opinion on it?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 16 2021 05:00pm)
The movie Filth has given me an appreciation for Scotland. What's your opinion on it?


Trainspotting is even better.
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Mar 16 2021 12:04pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 16 2021 09:06am)
Charles Michel. Claimed UK was blocking vaccines leaving the UK.
Which is another false claim in what is already a disastrous handling of its vaccination policy.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/10/vaccine-nationalism-eu-and-uk-in-fresh-row-after-charles-michel-accuses-london-of-export-b


got em'
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Quote (dro94 @ Mar 20 2021 10:42am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4QAgc4rwWU


Not a huge fan of Andrew Neil however that was an interesting article.
Lets be frank, we are not surprised that politicians/leaders have been untruthful.
We should not be surprised that they have done a poor job of negotiating with vaccine suppliers.

However the outrage should be forthcoming from EU citizens because this is not a simple election process or trade deal negotiations.
This is peoples health and lives.

The point about emergency powers is truly worrying for me.
It was so easy for leaders to lockdown the entire country in the name of protecting lives and the NHS.
Which clearly I support.
The danger is how easily those powers could be used for less justifiable reasons. Such as public order, preventing protests or as an economic tool.

Personal freedom should not be on the negotiation table over this.
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Mar 20 2021 05:36am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 20 2021 11:06am)
Not a huge fan of Andrew Neil however that was an interesting article.
Lets be frank, we are not surprised that politicians/leaders have been untruthful.
We should not be surprised that they have done a poor job of negotiating with vaccine suppliers.

However the outrage should be forthcoming from EU citizens because this is not a simple election process or trade deal negotiations.
This is peoples health and lives.

The point about emergency powers is truly worrying for me.
It was so easy for leaders to lockdown the entire country in the name of protecting lives and the NHS.
Which clearly I support.
The danger is how easily those powers could be used for less justifiable reasons. Such as public order, preventing protests or as an economic tool.

Personal freedom should not be on the negotiation table over this.


irony of leaving the UK to rejoin the EU tho
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Mar 20 2021 07:39am
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 20 2021 11:36am)
irony of leaving the UK to rejoin the EU tho


Explain the irony though. Scots voted to stay in the EU
As did northern Ireland.

And we left anyway. "Democracy"
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