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Feb 19 2021 09:57am
Quote (Duckling @ Feb 19 2021 09:51am)
I’m a leader, you ignorant racist soy boy


You got promoted to leader of the mall cops. Are you up to $12 an hour?
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 19 2021 01:49pm)
It won't work in 95% of those communities. Why do you think people like Oprah Winfrey and Michael Jordon aren't heavily investing their billions into poor black/white/red/yellow/brown communities? Why do you think Bill Gates isn't investing his billions into poor white/black/red/yellow/brown communities? For that matter, why is it, do you think, that poor communities tend to stay poor?

If your community is burned down every 3-6 months in riots, what use is it to invest? Who benefits? If gang violence and related crime is so through the roof, and kids are dropping out to join those gangs, or while they're still a tad young to drop out, are simply skipping out, does it matter if some school administrators get a few million extra added to administrative staff paychecks?

If you have methed out community, where 80% of the males are convicted felons, meth production is everywhere, and 95% of the females are single mothers on welfare, can you find the labor to even properly staff a business?

You can't just "throw money" at a problem. Look at Baltimore. "Racist policing". Okay, so they replaced their primarily white police force. Trained up a bunch of black police, transferred black police in, and in general, made their department black. Did that stop the riots, did that stop rioters from attacking them, firebombing them, and shooting them? Did it stop the outcry and proceeding riot when a black police officer, who was actively being shot at returned fire in self defense? Of course not.

Bernie's an idiot who held up Venezuela as the model example on why socialism works. How'd that go? It led to a crashed authoritarian state where a wheel barrow of money won't buy you a single roll of toilet paper, the population is starving and without proper medical care or services, while the "President" sits fat and happy in his palace.


these people just know that it would be a gigantic waste of money

ask successful guys who escaped their "community", they dont want anything whatsoever to do with them

we see this every single time, whether its domestic poor communities or development aid

throwing money at a group that has no structure or mentality does not work

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 19 Feb 2021 07:59)
these people just know that it would be a gigantic waste of money

ask successful guys who escaped their "community", they dont want anything whatsoever to do with them

we see this every single time, whether its domestic poor communities or development aid

throwing money at a group that has no structure or mentality does not work


Of course! There's a reason why so many black athletes have been asked about their attempts to reinvest in the poor community they came from. They're trying to find a success story to throw out.

Very few even tried to invest in their communities. Most talked at length about bringing their families and close friends OUT of those communities, and what a financial burden said people were on them.

And even those who arguably can be said to "invest" in the old communities weren't bringing in businesses, or dropping stacks of cash on schools. They're providing targeted scholarships and donating to like, domestic abuse organizations, food banks, etc.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 19 2021 10:07am
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Feb 19 2021 10:21am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 19 2021 06:29am)
Generally speaking: the main cleavage in American politics should be rich vs poor, not white vs non-white. It really baffles me that even high IQ people like you fail to see how modern identity politics are a deliberate (!!) distraction amped up by the billionaire class via their allies in politics, media, NGOs and academia. It's textbook "divide and conquer", why cant you guys see that?


I don't think it's nearly so conspiratorial. Upper class whites are more receptive to it because it justifies their low opinion of poor whites. I've had conversations where they specifically denigrate the poor / working class in West Virginia, Missouri, Alabama and the like with "systemic racism" as the foundational point. Try to explain that there's a difference between growing up in a wealthy Virginian, Boston, or New York suburb and growing up in the economic desert of West Virginia, and they just don't understand. They aren't manipulating, they've been manipulated.

Corporations are happy to have the heat taken off themselves, and they're terrified of being the victim of a witch-hunt. It is more opportunism and fear then a dedicated effort at implementing false consciousness. The enemy has always been the false academics and the bureaucrats standing behind them.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 19 2021 05:05pm)
Of course! There's a reason why so many black athletes have been asked about their attempts to reinvest in the poor community they came from. They're trying to find a success story to throw out.

Very few even tried to invest in their communities. Most talked at length about bringing their families and close friends OUT of those communities, and what a financial burden said people were on them.

And even those who arguably can be said to "invest" in the old communities weren't bringing in businesses, or dropping stacks of cash on schools. They're providing targeted scholarships and donating to like, domestic abuse organizations, food banks, etc.


staying in their community is a recipe to go broke

the overwhelming majority of athletes is not making dozens of millions

there is a reason why so many athletes are bankrupt a few years after their careers, especially blacks

the average nfl guy, who made a few million bucks goes back to their community, share their money with parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, nieces, friends until they are sucked dry

always the same shit, you can literally follow these guys ruining themselves on social media
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 19 2021 05:29am)
We can squabble all we want about the problem description, but that's not the point. What I wrote about the solution is still correct: trying to overcome racial inequality via counter-discrimination or even counter-racism is the wrong approach, it will only poison race relations and politics even further. Ban John from the race, but dont punish people 30 years later because their parents used to be on John's team.


We are still on John's team and reaping the benefit and John's family is still active. This isn't some "liberals see the world differently" thing, they are still actively writing laws to disenfranchise groups on racial lines and they are still going to the courts and they are still getting struck down and those laws are still on the books for 5+ years until the court case gets settled so they have plenty of time to be effective.

It's not being punished to prevent somebody from reaping the rewards of ill-gotten gains. We don't let a thief keep the stolen items because his son has them now.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 19 2021 10:57am)
You got promoted to leader of the mall cops. Are you up to $12 an hour?



No I actually do shit that’s productive for building a better society instead of typing useless bullshit on here all day such as yourself
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Feb 19 2021 10:52am
Quote (Duckling @ Feb 19 2021 10:46am)
No I actually do shit that’s productive for building a better society instead of typing useless bullshit on here all day such as yourself


Your job absolutely is important. Don't let anybody tell you different. When I go to the mall I expect to see a fat guy on a scooter and if I don't the trip just isn't complete. You are a valuable contributor to society.



On the subject of my work we got 2 papers accepted with a third that will get accepted next month, the abstract for our phase 2 clinical trial got submitted for which I did all of the patient sample analysis, and the sterile plastics shortage keeps getting worse and is kinda freaking me out.

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 19 Feb 2021 08:24)
staying in their community is a recipe to go broke

the overwhelming majority of athletes is not making dozens of millions

there is a reason why so many athletes are bankrupt a few years after their careers, especially blacks

the average nfl guy, who made a few million bucks goes back to their community, share their money with parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, nieces, friends until they are sucked dry

always the same shit, you can literally follow these guys ruining themselves on social media


To be fair, it's the same with white athletes. Oddly, it seems like brown and yellow athletes do a lot better at investing their wealth, and many even move back to their communities. My bet is, it's the stronger family structure that sees them through, even in poor communities. The attempt to utterly destroy the nuclear family has been entirely too successful among whites and blacks. The family and community structure is still very strong amount hispanics and asians. Not entirely certain about Arabs. Never really tracked any of them off-court or off-field.
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