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Sep 24 2020 07:00am
Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 24 2020 07:46am)
Change the law.

Demanding that officers can punished for following the letter of the law is ridiculous. Thank God we live in a country of laws and not some complete shithole where public anger decides ones guilt or innocence.


"Breonna Taylor died in a hail of bullets while Louisville police served a no-knock warrant on her home. There were no drugs in her house. She was not even the target of the police investigation. No one has been arrested."

Ok by Bogie.

You would yell "change the law!" at Anne Frank while she's being dragged out of her house. I can see you all pissed off at the Nuremburg Trials lol.

Legal deontology as an argument always gets me. It is soooo affirming the consequent logically.

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Sep 24 2020 07:02am
Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 24 2020 06:46am)
Change the law.

Demanding that officers can punished for following the letter of the law is ridiculous. Thank God we live in a country of laws and not some complete shithole where public anger decides ones guilt or innocence.


"I was just following orders"
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Sep 24 2020 07:09am
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 24 2020 09:00am)
"Breonna Taylor died in a hail of bullets while Louisville police served a no-knock warrant on her home. There were no drugs in her house. She was not even the target of the police investigation. No one has been arrested."

Ok by Bogie.

You would yell "change the law!" at Anne Frank while she's being dragged out of her house. I can see you all pissed off at the Nuremburg Trials lol.

Legal deontology as an argument always gets me. It is soooo affirming the consequent logically.


You are living in this society. If there is blame to go around, you certainly can't escape it.

What sort of ludicrous society would we be if we retroactively assigned legal guilt based on whether we liked the result? You guys have completely lost it.
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Sep 24 2020 07:14am
Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 24 2020 04:46am)
Change the law.

Demanding that officers can punished for following the letter of the law is ridiculous. Thank God we live in a country of laws and not some complete shithole where public anger decides ones guilt or innocence.



The Antifas invaded and slaughtered the shit out of the people who passed that law. They didn’t ask them politely to change the law please.
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Sep 24 2020 07:20am
Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 24 2020 07:46am)
Change the law.

Demanding that officers can punished for following the letter of the law is ridiculous. Thank God we live in a country of laws and not some complete shithole where public anger decides ones guilt or innocence.


Just to clarify, do you support changing some of these laws or you're just telling people outraged over this woman dying that's what they should advocate?
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Sep 24 2020 07:29am
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 24 2020 08:20am)
Just to clarify, do you support changing some of these laws or you're just telling people outraged over this woman dying that's what they should advocate?


They already changed the law. Louisville banned no-knock warrants, as did Houston, and more cities and states are bringing bills as is the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act at the federal level.
As the evidence shows, the brouhaha over no-knock warrants as misguided and unrelated to the facts of the case as the police decided to knock and announce anyway.
What does it say to you when a mob of people "outraged over this woman dying" go out and assault the same senator that introduced that bill while screaming "say her name"?

To me it just reiterates that message writ a thousand times over these past few years, that kneejerk outrage is no basis for legislation, that arsonists have no place in governance, and the enemy of civil society is the bomb throwing anarchists and terrorists not the police.
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Sep 24 2020 07:32am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 24 2020 09:29am)
They already changed the law. Louisville banned no-knock warrants, as did Houston, and more cities and states are bringing bills as is the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act at the federal level.
As the evidence shows, the brouhaha over no-knock warrants as misguided and unrelated to the facts of the case as the police decided to knock and announce anyway.
What does it say to you when a mob of people "outraged over this woman dying" go out and assault the same senator that introduced that bill while screaming "say her name"?

To me it just reiterates that message writ a thousand times over these past few years, that kneejerk outrage is no basis for legislation, that arsonists have no place in governance, and the enemy of civil society is the bomb throwing anarchists and terrorists not the police.


Maybe the state being able to murder people on their terms due to rules they make for thenselves without consulting or considering the people they allegedly serve isn't working and the people don't trust the same states who endorsed lynching in the past to finally clean up their act over 70 years later.

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Sep 24 2020 07:40am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 24 2020 09:29am)
They already changed the law. Louisville banned no-knock warrants, as did Houston, and more cities and states are bringing bills as is the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act at the federal level.
As the evidence shows, the brouhaha over no-knock warrants as misguided and unrelated to the facts of the case as the police decided to knock and announce anyway.
What does it say to you when a mob of people "outraged over this woman dying" go out and assault the same senator that introduced that bill while screaming "say her name"?


That's just one aspect of the law. Do you think no-knock warrants are the only area which needs reform?

Rand Paul wasn't assaulted. It says to me that emotional mobs aren't sophisticated and rational. That's why Trump is president.

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Sep 24 2020 07:41am
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 24 2020 09:32am)
Maybe the state being able to murder people on their terms due to rules they make for thenselves without consulting or considering the people they allegedly serve isn't working and the people don't trust the same states who endorsed lynching in the past to finally clean up their act over 70 years later.


We live in a country with representative government. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Quote (IceMage @ Sep 24 2020 09:20am)
Just to clarify, do you support changing some of these laws or you're just telling people outraged over this woman dying that's what they should advocate?


I am supportive of police reform.

It is when people start to advocate for impromptu lynchings targeted against rank and file officers that I come down hard on the side of the police.
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