d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Communist Idea.
Prev189101112Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 4,040
Joined: Oct 28 2009
Gold: 112,082.21
Aug 10 2020 10:40pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 11 2020 12:02am)
bunch of noam chomsky links

Edit: ugh you get so much shit wrong I can’t even. Chavism isn’t communism. Jesus. More than half of Venezuela’s economy is privately owned even today.


"Lenin and Mao called their systems State Capitalism." You're so caught up in the pedantry and semantics of your argument that you are unable to see the forest for the trees. It's much like the lefties screaming "Well they're called Antifa you fucking idiot, do you even know what that means retard, it means ANTI FASCIST so it's impossible for them to be fascist GOSH DUMMY!" I've already conceded that "real" communism has never been implemented anywhere, as in the textbook definition, because it's an impossibility that requires totalitarianism as has been demonstrated multiple times on the path to attempting it. That leaves you with socialism, the baby cousin and precursor of communism, which has also not been attempted at a puritan level but where the proletariat own the means of production but shit like private property and currency still exist, so surprise surprise many elements of capitalism are extant in a "socialist" system, such as modern China which is arguably now more capitalist than socialist, and another shocker that their capitalist tendencies correlate with their economic boom. I hope you're not actually as insufferable as your pseudo-intellectual rants and personal attacks would lead me to believe.

Also if we're gonna play the name game, can you tell me what the full name of the predominant political party in Germany was in, let's say, 1940?

This post was edited by phoenixfire82 on Aug 10 2020 10:56pm
Member
Posts: 45,628
Joined: Nov 13 2009
Gold: 42.00
Aug 10 2020 10:48pm
sorry this is the united states of i got mine fuck you not the...wait

the i got mine fuck you states of america sounds better
Member
Posts: 4,040
Joined: Oct 28 2009
Gold: 112,082.21
Aug 10 2020 11:21pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 11 2020 12:02am)
Stop being a lazy, entitled, anti-intellectual shitstain and do some work.



It just hit me how rich this line is coming from a commie. Lol I actually love it, very well done.
Member
Posts: 49,896
Joined: Jun 19 2006
Gold: 3.88
Aug 10 2020 11:27pm
Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Aug 11 2020 03:21pm)
It just hit me how rich this line is coming from a commie. Lol I actually love it, very well done.


Actually it makes more sense coming from a commie, since in communism everyone works and in your capitalism you can just exploit others to get wealthy.
"He worked hard for his billions" is the funniest shit i have ever heard.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Aug 10 2020 11:28pm
Member
Posts: 4,040
Joined: Oct 28 2009
Gold: 112,082.21
Aug 10 2020 11:28pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 11 2020 01:27am)
Actually it makes more sense coming from a commie, since in communism everyone works and in your capitalism just having money is a job.



Comical. Back to fantasy land we go.
Member
Posts: 49,896
Joined: Jun 19 2006
Gold: 3.88
Aug 10 2020 11:29pm
Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Aug 11 2020 03:28pm)
Comical. Back to fantasy land we go.


What is fantasy about it?
Jeff bezos has stolen a hundred thousand years of productivity from his workers.
The core of capitalism is exploitation.
Member
Posts: 4,040
Joined: Oct 28 2009
Gold: 112,082.21
Aug 10 2020 11:32pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 11 2020 01:29am)
What is fantasy about it?
Jeff bezos has stolen a hundred thousand years of productivity from his workers.
The core of capitalism is exploitation.



Everybody works in communism. That's fantasy. Now maybe with enough pressure from the jackboot you can get compliance but half the population still starves. Dude I just read your depression blog or whatever...my guy you need to find some meaning in your life, chasing after this fantasy land utopia you've created in your mind with the help of Karl Marx is not going to get you anywhere.
Member
Posts: 49,896
Joined: Jun 19 2006
Gold: 3.88
Aug 10 2020 11:35pm
Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Aug 11 2020 03:32pm)
Everybody works in communism. That's fantasy. Now maybe with enough pressure from the jackboot you can get compliance but half the population still starves. Dude I just read your depression blog or whatever...my guy you need to find some meaning in your life, chasing after this fantasy land utopia you've created in your mind with the help of Karl Marx is not going to get you anywhere.


I am not a communist, the blog is 4 years old, i am going great now since i realised working sucked and retired.
Capitalism for capitalisms sake is worthless, we all know where oligarchies lead and it never ends well for the rich.

Member
Posts: 4,040
Joined: Oct 28 2009
Gold: 112,082.21
Aug 10 2020 11:38pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 11 2020 01:35am)
I am not a communist, the blog is 4 years old, i am going great now since i realised working sucked and retired.
Capitalism for capitalisms sake is worthless, we all know where oligarchies lead and it never ends well for the rich.



you're not a communist you just espouse all of the communist ideals or? ok whatever. glad to hear you're doing better. hope you were able to work and save for your beach house, it's great that's even a possibility for you, you could never own a beach house under the jackboot of communism as you well know.
Member
Posts: 20,253
Joined: Apr 30 2008
Gold: 5,267.97
Aug 10 2020 11:48pm
Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Aug 10 2020 11:57pm)
My point is that when communism is attempted it turns authoritarian 100% of the time. You denying that the Soviet Union, Mao's China and Venezuela were attempts at communism show you lack understanding and/or are intellectually dishonest. So you can also answer, what did they do wrong, and what do you know that they didn't to make it work properly, like the "real" communism you describe.


What makes you think that communism was attempted in those countries you listed?

Saying you want communism is not the same as actually trying to implement communism. More than anything, the word "communism" has been abused to justify coups/revolutions in countries where people were fed up with capitalism.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev189101112Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll