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Quote (thesnipa @ 22 Jul 2020 09:05)
really from a fundamental standpoint we can look at technological progress as "your progress" or "our progress". some commie leftists cant keep their hands off our thoughts let alone paychecks.

whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine. the warcry of every bored housewife and wannabe revolutionary commie since forever

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America still has yet to make a rifle half as good as the AK-47.

loved the ak during my counterstrike days. best rifle by far

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America still has yet to make a rifle half as good as the AK-47.


The same can be said for every country in the world.
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The same can be said for every country in the world.


First to space and best rifle for strongest ground army. Not bad for not having the benefit of the benign 1%.
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First to space and best rifle for strongest ground army. Not bad for not having the benefit of the benign 1%.


"see communism can still achieve great successes" - skinned on Soviet successes in space and overrated guns.

"that wasn't real communism" - skinned on the starvation, denial of human rights, and fall of the Soviet Empire.

maybe the real communism is the friends that starved along the way.
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"see communism can still achieve great successes" - skinned on Soviet successes in space and overrated guns.

"that wasn't real communism" - skinned on the starvation, denial of human rights, and fall of the Soviet Empire.

maybe the real communism is the friends that starved along the way.


Overrated guns? Only to hobbyists i suppose.

Denial of human rights? We have that too. We are suspending due process and habeas corpus with secret police arrests, we have race-based detainment similar to Japanese Internment occurring, it is uncommon for any president to a majority of the electorate support them...we have a very large percentage of our population incarcerated, with three strikes and lifetime sentences for the behavior of drug use plus drug war....

We defend ourselves as land of the free based on our high gdp.

We had eradicated hunger problems in the 70s only to bring them back under the guise of small government.

How many non-white or non-male heads of state have we had compared to for example Pakistan, who have had more than one type of leader. Tsarist Russia has had more plurality of leadership than the USA. Rome had a transgendered syrian who tried to become a sun god as emperor so it gets weirder lol.

You act like an Empire falling is a crime? What empire hasn't fallen, genius? The EU is coming to life and failing in 20-30 years it seems.

The entire American war against the Philippines was to open markets. It was a genocidal blood bath. How many Panamanians did America kill to make a canal through their country? How many corpses are in the Hoover Dam?

"That isn't the real capitalism". Ok. Name one fucking system where nothing bad happens please since you know it all? We had Americans starving to death in the Dust Bowl. The Russian you is probably bringing that up when someone there said Americans do organized sports better than anyone else.

I'm not whitewashing any system. There has never been a system that has done what people expect government to be able to do. Fuck communism too, i never claimed it was superior to capitalism, its killed as many people as capitalism and divine right of kings per capita. I just hate the black and white thinking.


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whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine. the warcry of every bored housewife and wannabe revolutionary commie since forever


loved the ak during my counterstrike days. best rifle by far


Using it in cod warzone now. Got 15 kills in a game with it last night. Just charging and hip firing with a drum and a laser pointer lol. Named it BIG CHOPPA.

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Overrated guns? Only to hobbyists i suppose.

Denial of human rights? We have that too. We are suspending due process and habeas corpus with secret police arrests, we have race-based detainment similar to Japanese Internment occurring, it is uncommon for any president to a majority of the electorate support them...we have a very large percentage of our population incarcerated, with three strikes and lifetime sentences for the behavior of drug use plus drug war....

We defend ourselves as land of the free based on our high gdp.

We had eradicated hunger problems in the 70s only to bring them back under the guise of small government.

How many non-white or non-male heads of state have we had compared to for example Pakistan, who have had more than one type of leader. Tsarist Russia has had more plurality of leadership than the USA. Rome had a transgendered syrian who tried to become a sun god as emperor so it gets weirder lol.

You act like an Empire falling is a crime? What empire hasn't fallen, genius? The EU is coming to life and failing in 20-30 years it seems.

The entire American war against the Philippines was to open markets. It was a genocidal blood bath. How many Panamanians did America kill to make a canal through their country? How many corpses are in the Hoover Dam?

"That isn't the real capitalism". Ok. Name one fucking system where nothing bad happens please since you know it all? We had Americans starving to death in the Dust Bowl. The Russian you is probably bringing that up when someone there said Americans do organized sports better than anyone else.


yes overrated and overproduced. it hasnt been the best gun of it's class in a long time but the myth that it's unmatched remains. there's millions of millions of them, they were uncharacteristically reliable for their day, and can accept multiple rounds. other than that it's nothing modern guns can't poopoo all over. if we couldnt have beaten the design the USA would have stolen it and we'd see AK clones in use today. its just gotten a myst of allure on it from modern video games. good gun no doubt, but it's like Wilt Chamberlain, unreal for his day but cant walk onto an NBA court in 2020 and perform with the same disparity.

you seem to be making the same issue twice in the rest tho, with detainment and Pakistan. detainment centers are detaining illegal immigrants, almost all of whom are Hispanic. shocker that Pakistan has had non white leaders given that it's nearly all non white as a country. and most people who are white dont end up in detainment centers because their violation is an overstayed visa and rather than being detained they're deported quickly, because their country of origin and other factors are documented. we can debate the morality or even practicality of catch and release versus detainment, but race here is still confirmation bias.

empires all fall, some due to natural disasters like drought or volcanos, some because the people rip their leaders apart. the Soviet Union today is basically still in existence, Oligarchs controlled the soviets more than the working man ever did and the same is still in place. it's an aristocracy with the guise of democracy, we didnt win the cold war entirely. we just stopped them from starving satellite states on the borders. which is guess is still a big win.

in any case u just took some trolling bait with fervor. obviously all systems have faults and all system let down certain sectors of society.
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yes overrated and overproduced. it hasnt been the best gun of it's class in a long time but the myth that it's unmatched remains. there's millions of millions of them, they were uncharacteristically reliable for their day, and can accept multiple rounds. other than that it's nothing modern guns can't poopoo all over. if we couldnt have beaten the design the USA would have stolen it and we'd see AK clones in use today. its just gotten a myst of allure on it from modern video games. good gun no doubt, but it's like Wilt Chamberlain, unreal for his day but cant walk onto an NBA court in 2020 and perform with the same disparity.

you seem to be making the same issue twice in the rest tho, with detainment and Pakistan. detainment centers are detaining illegal immigrants, almost all of whom are Hispanic. shocker that Pakistan has had non white leaders given that it's nearly all non white as a country. and most people who are white dont end up in detainment centers because their violation is an overstayed visa and rather than being detained they're deported quickly, because their country of origin and other factors are documented. we can debate the morality or even practicality of catch and release versus detainment, but race here is still confirmation bias.

empires all fall, some due to natural disasters like drought or volcanos, some because the people rip their leaders apart. the Soviet Union today is basically still in existence, Oligarchs controlled the soviets more than the working man ever did and the same is still in place. it's an aristocracy with the guise of democracy, we didnt win the cold war entirely. we just stopped them from starving satellite states on the borders. which is guess is still a big win.

in any case u just took some trolling bait with fervor. obviously all systems have faults and all system let down certain sectors of society.


I'm hung up on the ak thing.

What rifles are better for a war fighter? The AK 47 and 74 will shit all over anything else in the field. I would like to say the M4 felt stronger than a BB gun and didn't need to be in pristine condition to be useful. We would put condoms down the barrel because the slightest amount of dust would jam them up...and if you hit someone in it wearing any kind of armor it wouldn't hurt them and your gun will break easily. Also you can work on them unlike german assault rifles, which are built around their guts in a way that it all has to come together at once....newer russian rifles shove the guts through the case on a way and they aren't easy to work on either past very basic maintenance.

Maybe there were so many produced because they were trademarked by a capitalist? Lol. Nobody artifically restricted the flow of these monsters and whoever could stamp the pieces could have one. The person who invented it was a state hero but not a rich man since there weren't supposed to be any of those lol.

AK is the one. You can pull it out of the mud and fire homemade bullets lol. Doesn't have all the hobby rails for fanboys though so not as fun to play with?

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What rifles are better for a war fighter? The AK 47 and 74 will shit all over anything else in the field. I would like to say the M4 felt stronger than a BB gun and didn't need to be in pristine condition to be useful. We would put condoms down the barrel because the slightest amount of dust would jam them up...and if you hit someone in it wearing any kind of armor it wouldn't hurt them and your gun will break easily. Also you can work on them unlike german assault rifles, which are built around their guts in a way that it all has to come together at once....newer russian rifles shove the guts through the case on a way and they aren't easy to work on either past very basic maintenance.

Maybe there were so many produced because they were trademarked by a capitalist? Lol. Nobody artifically restricted the flow of these monsters and whoever could stamp the pieces could have one. The person who invented it was a state hero but not a rich man since there weren't supposed to be any of those lol.

AK is the one. You can pull it out of the mud and fire homemade bullets lol.


Bushmaster AC3, and just about any modern assault weapon. Aks have their history because of how effective they are for guerrilla insurgents. cheap, wide range of ammo, nor prone to jams, and easy to clean/service. but this is like saying my 1982 buick regal is better than a Tesla. it isn't, its cheap reliable and i can work on it myself.
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Bushmaster AC3, and just about any modern assault weapon. Aks have their history because of how effective they are for guerrilla insurgents. cheap, wide range of ammo, nor prone to jams, and easy to clean/service. but this is like saying my 1982 buick regal is better than a Tesla. it isn't, its cheap reliable and i can work on it myself.


I would rather have my buick and Volkswagen than a tesla tbh. Its a coal car where i live.
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I would rather have my buick and Volkswagen than a tesla tbh. Its a coal car where i live.


I have not driven one but ive heard when accelerating its surreal, like doesnt even seem like you're in a car. those 0-60 times are absurd even on pure gas.
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