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“Estrogen is not a treatment for ODD. I can’t be more emphatic about that,” James McGough, a professor of clinical psychiatry at UCLA told The Los Angeles Times. “You won’t find a reference anywhere that supports the use of estrogen for ODD.”

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 17 2020 08:24am)

Just funny how the posse of leftist that condone and actively push forward such regressive policies are attacking Goom for daring to speak about it.
Instead of condemning use of unauthorized treatment for ODD on a fucking minor, they're attacking Goom and looking for 27 different angles to justify this abomination.
He was forcefully given 13 doses of estrogen to feminize him, because according to them he had elevated levels of testosterone.
There was no reason to give him this treatment and it violates a ton of ethics.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 17 2020 08:36am)

take the gender cocktails out of the mix and we still have a minor who was forced to take medication without his parent's consent. elevated levels of testosterone, sounds like dude fucks.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 17 2020 02:48am)

by the doctor who's theory was high testosterone? that would have made too much sense
trying to solve behavioral issues by effectively mixing uppers and downers

Using spironolactone with estrodial is the much safer version of feminizing therapy, because using just estrogens actually was a treatment regime years ago for conditions like prostate cancer, but with all those horrifying side effects from clashing hormones. And of course, those feminizing effects are why non-transition treatments moved towards non-feminizing blockers and why transition uses estrodial pills.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 17 2020 11:58am)

Can you find a single post in this thread that attempts to justify what was done to him? Because I haven't seen anybody say it was right, I've only seen people point out that calling it a "gender transition" isn't accurate.

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 16 2020 05:26pm)

He was institutionalized so maybe he needs some chill if he is already being deemed unable to function with the rest of us.

What did this teenager do to get incarcerated? Are parents even his guardians?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 17 2020 10:58am)

Yes, like I've said like 5 times now, this is an informed consent issue.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 17 2020 11:18am)

Yeah easy, only had to look at the first page.

Asking a bunch of 'what was she wearing' type questions is precisely done for the purpose of somehow justifying the action.

It's not an approved treatment, never was. They are giving him estrogen to counteract his testosterone, experimenting on making him more female-like. It's unethical and the social context of transgenderism can't be ignored because it's literally the reason why these drugs were available on hand to begin with.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 17 2020 12:24pm)

Asking who his guardian is is actually paramount to if this was an informed consent violation. Those are relevant questions to the case, not an attempted justification.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 17 2020 09:24am)

Just funny how the posse of leftist that condone and actively push forward such regressive policies are attacking Goom for daring to speak about it.

Instead of condemning use of unauthorized treatment for ODD on a fucking minor, they're attacking Goom and looking for 27 different angles to justify this abomination.

He was forcefully given 13 doses of estrogen to feminize him, because according to them he had elevated levels of testosterone.



There was no reason to give him this treatment and it violates a ton of ethics.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 17 2020 12:18pm)

Yeah easy, only had to look at the first page.



Asking a bunch of 'what was she wearing' type questions is precisely done for the purpose of somehow justifying the action.

It's not an approved treatment, never was. They are giving him estrogen to counteract his testosterone, experimenting on making him more female-like. It's unethical and the social context of transgenderism can't be ignored because it's literally the reason why these drugs were available on hand to begin with.

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 17 2020 12:29pm)

If this incarcerated kid was black and the police killed him for aggression Goom would be full court press in character assassination.