Any type of aggressive dogpile mentality that seeks to stifle conversation instead of engage in meaningful opportunities to learn through discussion is toxic. Any type of aggressive conversation that seeks to spew a single message without a willingness to engage, discuss, and learn is toxic.
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But isn't this just calling for a moratorium on calling people out for problematic views as opposed to developing a debate culture?
If Person A believes that trans women are women, and Person B believes trans women are NOT women, what exactly is there to debate?
Whether they are or are not women. That's what there is to debate.
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I'm still not totally clear what cancel culture is.
It really seems like a function of commodity fetishism in advanced capitalism.
JK Rowling for example. I'm not sure how she can be judged liberal, she wrote books about elitist white families having secret schools and special powers, with literally no representation in her stories.
She is a shitty writer and it is crazy to me an entite (lame) generation thinks hufflepuff is a personality trait.
I'm sympathetic to the TERF argument that being a woman is just another thing men can take from females in terms of creating safe spaces.
Problem is trans women face the same problems just magnified in scope as other women and need to use those spaces legitimately.
Some might tell me how cancel culture is different than other classic boycotting and diversion tactics. I'm ignorant here.
JK Rowling fot example isn't in trouble for saying transwomen aren't women, she is advocating for them to be harmed by being excluded by spaces for them that they need. It isn't a different of opinion when one party seeks to harm another.
Cancel culture is boycotting. They're the same thing, we just have a need to rename shit so it feels like we came up with it.
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Give an example of this happening please. If it is so rampant there ought to be a list of victims and accusers ready as talking point. This isn't new. In have yet to see an argument against it that realistically depicts the situation, the problem, and the offenders.
The biggest event in cancel culture has been #metoo and that has nailed Weinstein, Cosby, Epstein, etc. Why is this bad and why are these men worth defending?
Where is all this excess at? Who is innocent and suffered the same fate as weinstein, cosby, epstein for example.
I'll look back at the thread, but people against this phenomenon are just so emotional about it that i just have not heard any rational thoughts around it.
I get cancelled here all the time via people reporting me for hurt feelings. These aren't leftie snowflakes doing this. These are people cancelling me because they don't like my opinions then those same people are complaining about cancel cultute. They don't want a debate, they miss their social domination when people who aren't like them didn't have a voice. Or they wouldn't be cancelling.
Lol he doesn't report tho.
The OGs here don't report each other.
I don't think #metoo was a cancel movement. I think #metoo was a statement of solidarity with respect to sexual violence.
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