Quote (WNxIrvine @ 13 Dec 2019 08:45)

No shit corbyn policies are popular. You ask any dickhead on the street if he likes free shit and he's gonna say yes. But you mash all that together with a load of other bollocks that totals what, somewhere just shy of one trillion quid? People aren't gonna eat it. And that was just including what was actually in the manifesto! 2 days later they're blabbing on about women missing pensions so they're gonna throw tens of billions at them (not costed!) to try and win their votes.

People are sick of austerity, hence why the tories have now opened the coffers, that doesn't now mean we have to go full retard and bankrupt ourselves. 50,000 more nurses, 20,000 more coppers, wtf are people still banging the austerity drum for?

I genuinely can not believe the level that the left got themselves into their own bubble. One glance at twitter and you see the level of it, thousands of young people "omg, I believed, everyone on my timeline was a corbyn supporter how did this happen bla bla bla". You see it in your post ffs. The biggest electoral humiliation of my lifetime, and probably yours, and you still can't see what's 2 inches from your face.

If Labour are losing seats like blyth Valley and Workington, then the problems are far deeper with their message than just "muh brexit". Yet the momentum mongrels, and daft fucks like you, and still stuck on repeat. Get back towards the centre where you belong, so actual working class people can vote for Labour again.

Embarrassing stuff.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Dec 13 2019 08:45am)

Most of the UK is inhabited by people with the same mindset as a redneck from Alabama. It isn’t surprising that they vote against their own interests like idiots. Birds of a feather.

Quote (WNxIrvine @ 13 Dec 2019 13:45)

No shit corbyn policies are popular. You ask any dickhead on the street if he likes free shit and he's gonna say yes. But you mash all that together with a load of other bollocks that totals what, somewhere just shy of one trillion quid? People aren't gonna eat it. And that was just including what was actually in the manifesto! 2 days later they're blabbing on about women missing pensions so they're gonna throw tens of billions at them (not costed!) to try and win their votes.

People are sick of austerity, hence why the tories have now opened the coffers, that doesn't now mean we have to go full retard and bankrupt ourselves. 50,000 more nurses, 20,000 more coppers, wtf are people still banging the austerity drum for?

I genuinely can not believe the level that the left got themselves into their own bubble. One glance at twitter and you see the level of it, thousands of young people "omg, I believed, everyone on my timeline was a corbyn supporter how did this happen bla bla bla". You see it in your post ffs. The biggest electoral humiliation of my lifetime, and probably yours, and you still can't see what's 2 inches from your face.

If Labour are losing seats like blyth Valley and Workington, then the problems are far deeper with their message than just "muh brexit". Yet the momentum mongrels, and daft fucks like you, and still stuck on repeat. Get back towards the centre where you belong, so actual working class people can vote for Labour again.

Embarrassing stuff.

Quote (balrog66 @ 13 Dec 2019 13:45)

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Gotta say this does not make me like first past the post any more. LibDem really get shafted sharing most of their voter pop distribution with Labour/Tories.

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Dec 13 2019 03:23pm)

I mean labour lost hard in leave voting seats. I base my opinions on data not feels which is why I predicted a conservative majority. I didn't think it'd be this bad but neither did even the experts on the matter. I also tried to remain hopeful that the polls were wrong because I believe in the socially progressive and anti-austerity policies that economists support.

Don't tell me where I belong you patronising, politically inept fucking twitterbot. Keep getting your view of the world from twitter and I'll get it from data, polling, historical example and actually engaging my brain instead of repeating the same dumb talking points I heard on the radio or off the TV.

If it is a centrist position that will win labor an election then why was it all the centrist MPs that lost their seats hmm? You want centrism go to the libdems. Labour is and, but for a blairite blip, has always been the party of the workers, the unions, social justice and socialist reforms.

You have zero place in serious political analysis until you grow up and engage your brain.

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 13 Dec 2019 10:23)

I'll get it from data, polling,

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 11 Dec 2019 05:51)

But who trusts polls any more? Especially when all the polling companies are run by Ex Tories and their friends?

Random internet polls suggest much better results for labour but ofc they're unreliable as fuck.

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 13 Dec 2019 10:23)

actually engaging my brain

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 11 Dec 2019 05:51)

If there is a god - Please don't let Boris get a majority.

Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 13 Dec 2019 16:23)

If it is a centrist position that will win labor an election then why was it all the centrist MPs that lost their seats hmm?

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