What exactly do you support being done?

None of the rage against cultists and America and gun obsession NRA right wingers libertarians or personal attacks against anyone and all the rest of the usual because it clogs the conversation and makes it confusing as to what you support

Clear list of what you propose with specifics to stop/prevent mass killings

Getting murderers to switch weapons is a big deal imo, because then they have less options to choose from.

Sure to a determined killer it might not make a difference. But that too is the point, to deter people, it can be conceivable that people commit murders because they can get access to guns and that's how they wanted to commit the crime. A bad example but still someone like Zimmerman comes to mind.

That narrative exists though it is untrue but is pushed by the liberals all the same.

Liberals are not really that much better than conservatives. The democratic party only gets support because it's the lesser of two evils.

meanwhile in 'straya:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49327241

mentally ill person murders woman in apartment, goes on a rampage, injures one more person and is then stopped by citizens with a chair and a milk crate.
i wonder how this would have developed, had he had easy access to semi-automatic rifles and large capacity magazines...

"Let's see if we can figure out things that will actually make sense and help while not sacrificing or infringing on rights just to say we did something..here is idea A B C hopefully they will help address motivation etc etc. Also please list specifics so we can address those and see if they make sense and arent just control for the sake of control"

But that turns into a we support a do nothing strategy





No shock you decided to ignore a request for clear specifics about your ideas on this without insults and rants about a smorgasbord of people but it would help the conversation so we dont always have to deal in generalities and just keep repeating the same things over and over

Any data on the amount of shootings stopped by good guys with guns ? *derp*

you already told me that thousands of dead innocent people are a price you're "willing to pay" (for something that has no real life upside).

so what's the point in telling you again that i think universal background checks, a ban of large capacity magazines, a strict licensing process, red flag laws, closing of the ridiculous loopholes that still exist, a comprehensive gun buyback program... are measures worth trying to limit the frequency and scale of not only mass shootings, but ALL gun related crimes and accidents? you'd immediately dismiss half of it as 'unconstitutional' (hilariously claiming you're just being 'principled'), misrepresent the rest of it as a slippery slope measures towards tyranny, lie about guns protecting the poor (when in reality the opposite is true) and freedom (same), and deluding yourself into thinking you're not being an immoral and dishonest person for doing so.

meanwhile you haven't proposed anything that could realistically work, just resorted to your 'no way to prevent this without violating my specific interpretation of the constitution - so unless you have some magical solution, let's not do anything. don't call me out on how this attitude makes sure innocent people keep getting killed at ridiculous rates, that's just super mean and offensive' approach.


inb4: just not doable, wouldn't prevent anything, people would just use bombs, only the bad guys would have guns, *insert any other generic NRA talking point*....

Good thing

You can still own guns, but need to be a good person who won't go shooting up places