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Jul 1 2018 11:37am


I think the reservations, ARE the problem.

People only make the choices to move on to a different method, when they are immersed in that different method. Otherwise peer pressure will win 90% of the time.
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Jul 1 2018 11:40am
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 1 2018 10:37am)
I think the reservations, ARE the problem.
People only make the choices to move on to a different method, when they are immersed in that different method. Otherwise peer pressure will win 90% of the time.


I'm not sure what you are trying to say here can you clarify?
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Jul 1 2018 11:43am
I agree, but money buys land, from what I understand if you get money no matter how little it's your decisions that either waste the chance or build your future on it

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Jul 1 2018 12:01pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 1 2018 01:40pm)
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here can you clarify?




Change the word method to lifestyle?

Whenever a group of people congregate solely with others of their belief system, that belief system and any inherent problems it has, will be re-propagated over and over.
In general this seems to be true no matter what the race or culture of the people in question seem to be.

If you had grown up say, near a college campus in California or Connecticut, for example, I would imagine you would have had a very different life.

Diversity within a country is a good thing. (This does not mean I think the US should go out of it's way regarding immigration or open borders) I look on diversity as a way for everyone to experience different viewpoints.

This would have the effect of showing everyone involved that there are different ways to feel about things, to accomplish things, etc. In every instance where I see people that try to remain in groups that are... separatist, I see the same problems those people have with society at large, endlessly repeated, down the generations.

I'm not saying that those outside said group are always right or correct, but being immersed in the outside group, tends to illustrate that there are many more options than was previously believed, withing a particular group.
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Quote (Ghot @ Jul 1 2018 11:01am)
Change the word method to lifestyle?

Whenever a group of people congregate solely with others of their belief system, that belief system and any inherent problems it has, will be re-propagated over and over.
In general this seems to be true no matter what the race or culture of the people in question seem to be.

If you had grown up say, near a college campus in California or Connecticut, for example, I would imagine you would have had a very different life.

Diversity within a country is a good thing. (This does not mean I think the US should go out of it's way regarding immigration or open borders) I look on diversity as a way for everyone to experience different viewpoints.

This would have the effect of showing everyone involved that there are different ways to feel about things, to accomplish things, etc. In every instance where I see people that try to remain in groups that are... separatist, I see the same problems those people have with society at large, endlessly repeated, down the generations.

I'm not saying that those outside said group are always right or correct, but being immersed in the outside group, tends to illustrate that there are many more options than was previously believed, withing a particular group.


Showing is fine
sharing is better

but the people we are talking about come from generations of forced "beliefs" and "different ways of doing things"

People do not bounce back quickly from the treatment natives dealt with and the treatment they still deal with

and they should not be forced to give up their ways in a country of freedom

The most shit on people in America by America

"remain in groups" they are our families, our blood, our people

they've given everything they ever had and were left to rot for generations on frozen boneyards after having addiction forced on them through malicious trading

I did what you promote. I left when I was a teen and I succeeded in your ways but it didn't fill the hole in my soul and it doesn't for many of the others either.

We have different ways deep in our cores, we have different connections. I would never recommend to a child to give that up, they won't fill it with stuff and things away from their people and their blood

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Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 1 2018 02:38pm)
Showing is fine
sharing is better

but the people we are talking about come from generations of forced "beliefs" and "different ways of doing things"

People do not bounce back quickly from the treatment natives dealt with and the treatment they still deal with

and they should not be forced to give up their ways in a country of freedom

The most shit on people in America by America

"remain in groups" they are our families, our blood, our people

they've given everything they ever had and were left to rot for generations on frozen boneyards after having addiction forced on them through malicious trading

I did what you promote. I left when I was a teen and I succeeded in your ways but it didn't fill the hole in my soul and it doesn't for many of the others either.

We have different ways deep in our cores, we have different connections. I would never recommend to a child to give that up, they won't fill it with stuff and things away from their people and their blood





I didn't think you REALLY wanted a clarification. :/

Btw, any "holes in your soul" are put there by... you.
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Jul 1 2018 01:17pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 1 2018 11:42am)
I didn't think you REALLY wanted a clarification. :/

Btw, any "holes in your soul" are put there by... you.


When your'e very young and you grow up watching people beaten, death from addiction and murder and suicide, people broken by their treatment not long ago

when you have your own brain sabotaged by force and your development stunted by abuse you do not get out whole

eventually you become a man and it all follows you for the rest of your life, it's all you know because it's all you knew while your brain was at it's most vunerable

and that's the war, fighting yourself every single day trying to find what you wish you had been taught when it was most important in your life

most fail, most die high or in a cage

You try to figure out how to forgive so you can be free, how you can do something so children don't have to fight that war

you try to to have normal loving relationships but you don't know how, you try to see how others feel but you don't know what it's like in their world

you feel alone every single day of your life no matter who is around, you crave highs you've never even felt before

you want to stop the cycle of addiction and violence that you feel like fire in your veins

I didn't put that hole there and neither did anyone else out there struggling

the truth is that most will never get filled

the mission is to contribute in as many ways as possible to causes that help more young ones live lives to where they have no idea what my post feels like
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Jul 1 2018 01:29pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 1 Jul 2018 17:00)
These posts are the same to you?

if anything good has come from this thread it's that you have finally finished your transformation into full shit posting memer

hopefully nobody makes the mistake of taking you serious in the future


Yep. Especially when the original is clarified by my later post -
Quote (Scaly @ 30 Jun 2018 23:41)
Well more land isn't gonna help them is it? They need proper social programs etc. They kinda fucked themselves with the whole sovereignty over reservations thing. Another unequal treaty considering federal law still rules there and the Assimilative Crimes Act makes it so that even state laws are essentially federal law on reservations. So basically they have to obey the USGov but get almost no assistance from them.


But as you seem to be incapable of civil discourse I wouldn't expect you to notice any posts which don't help feed your combative and toxic behaviour.
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Yep. Especially when the original is clarified by my later post -

But as you seem to be incapable of civil discourse I wouldn't expect you to notice any posts which don't help feed your combative and toxic behaviour.


Would you have clarified your ignorant racist post if you hadn't been called out by your friends?
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Quote (Beowulf @ 1 Jul 2018 19:30)
Would you have clarified your ignorant racist post if you hadn't been called out by your friends?


I thought I didn't have any friends? Pretty sure you said everyone just ignores me.

Also not racist or ignorant. Indians live in shitty conditions and have high rates of drug and alcohol addiction. Giving them more land would just ruin the land.
Sorry if you find the truth racist. Not my fault.

You claim you're an American Indian - why not get out there and help your community? Become a figurehead or a spokesperson or whatever. Rather than just venting your anger by bullying and harassing people on some random gaming forum?

The govt obviously needs to step in to help people like you - because you have either no inclination or no ability to help yourselves. Just a lot of anger that you release in self destructive ways. Nothing to be ashamed of and for it to be racist it'd have to imply that native Americans are the only people who behave like that under those conditions, which they're not - most people would if they had suffered as the native Americans have. So we should step in and help you help yourselves.

This post was edited by Scaly on Jul 1 2018 01:42pm
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