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May 10 2018 04:17am
Quote (tonerbond @ May 10 2018 03:57am)
Ours is bigger


But Irans balls are bigger.
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May 10 2018 07:06am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 9 2018 07:35pm)
Those are lies relating to extremely important policies.

I'd rather trump lie about what he had for dinner or make an exaggerated off the cuff remark, or botch a talking point, or accurately state something that the WashingtonCompost labels a 'lie or misleading statement' than deal with critically important, premeditated lies fueling anti-american authoritarian policies.

Did you know that stating “In a modern world, in this world, there's more human trafficking and slavery than at any time in the history of this world. It's hard to believe.” goes on the list of lies because experts say sexual exploitation isn't a major problem in the united states?


Some of those are campaign hyperbole, some of it is what he thought his policies would accomplish, some of it isn't a lie at all, and others are.

Obama lied the way politicians always have. Trump lies about policy too, and he lies about dumb shit(biggest electoral college victory, 2 North Korea hostages weren't taken under his watch, etc). Trump reflexively lies about things... he doesn't value truth like most serious people do.

So basically, you give Trump a pass because he's closer ideologically to you. His type of authoritarianism is right-wing... and you're about as much of a principled anarchist as Stefan Molyneux. Lol.

This post was edited by IceMage on May 10 2018 07:11am
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Smart move by Trump, saved my country alot of hassle...
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Smart move by Trump, saved my country alot of hassle...


Cant wait Iran get full nuclear power like kim jong (after all pakistan got it already); at least we will have peace in the area and netanyahu will stop acting like a little bitch.
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Quote (NiRo_O @ May 10 2018 08:21am)
Smart move by Trump, saved my country alot of hassle...


Uh... how does scrapping an agreement that blocked Iran from building nukes save your country a lot of hassle?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 10 2018 04:24pm)
Cant wait Iran get full nuclear power like kim jong (after all pakistan got it already); at least we will have peace in the area and netanyahu will stop acting like a little bitch.


Do you watch the news brah?
Iran woke up with a butthurt this morning

Quote (IceMage @ May 10 2018 04:25pm)
Uh... how does scrapping an agreement that blocked Iran from building nukes save your country a lot of hassle?


their target for this nuclear was Israel, obviously it wouldnt happen this way or another.
but when america stopped the flowing of billions of dollars to Iran, makes it easier for us

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their target for this nuclear was Israel, obviously it wouldnt happen this way or another.
but when america stopped the flowing of billions of dollars to Iran, makes it easier for us


could you elaborate?
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their target for this nuclear was Israel, obviously it wouldnt happen this way or another.
but when america stopped the flowing of billions of dollars to Iran, makes it easier for us


So a poorer Iran pursuing nuclear weapons is better for Israel than a richer Iran not pursuing nuclear weapons?

Sounds like some solid strategic thinking. :wacko:
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Quote (IceMage @ May 10 2018 04:39pm)
So a poorer Iran pursuing nuclear weapons is better for Israel than a richer Iran not pursuing nuclear weapons?

Sounds like some solid strategic thinking. :wacko:


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could you elaborate?


Part of that agreement that Obama have made in collaboration with Europe countries and Iran was that they'll make it up for the sanctions that they did in the past to them
which means billions of dollars per year flowing to Iran.... Iran went and invested all of it in terror and rockets, building army bases in Syria to get a better strategy point to attack israel when they are ready
so anyways the money wasnt going to the civilians of Iran...

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Quote (IceMage @ May 10 2018 09:06am)
Some of those are campaign hyperbole, some of it is what he thought his policies would accomplish, some of it isn't a lie at all, and others are.

Obama lied the way politicians always have. Trump lies about policy too, and he lies about dumb shit(biggest electoral college victory, 2 North Korea hostages weren't taken under his watch, etc). Trump reflexively lies about things... he doesn't value truth like most serious people do.

So basically, you give Trump a pass because he's closer ideologically to you. His type of authoritarianism is right-wing... and you're about as much of a principled anarchist as Stefan Molyneux. Lol.


I don't give trump a pass. Both told plenty of lies and falsehoods and should be criticized for doing so.
I wasn't the one implying Obama didn't lie very much.

I don't need a castrated turncoat who abandoned his so-called conservative principles lecturing me about ideological consistency and principles. I have remained an extremely consistent libertarian the whole time.
Recognizing that Obama was a pernicious liar on extremely important topics is not at all embracing 'right wing authoritarianism', despite your delusions. TDS is real.


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