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Quote (inkanddagger @ Feb 2 2018 03:51pm)
TL;DR the memo is a dud and section 5 literally states that Papadopolos is the reason the investigation was opened, not the dossier.



The investigation was opened against Page, and section 5 states that there was no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopolous.













....which ofc, puts it right back on the Steele dossier.

/e ...and that's not even getting into the last sentence in section 5. :/

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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 2 2018 04:08pm)
"I am not a republican, or a democrat. they're all liars" - Ghot

"what is now clear is that the Dems have owned the FBI and DOJ for 14 years, and the reps finally have proof" - Ghot, also.

worlds most phony centrist award goes toooooooooooo!


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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 2 2018 03:08pm)
"I am not a republican, or a democrat. they're all liars" - Ghot

"what is now clear is that the Dems have owned the FBI and DOJ for 14 years, and the reps finally have proof" - Ghot, also.

worlds most phony centrist award goes toooooooooooo!


We already established that when we asked him to criticize literally anything Trump has done and praise the Democrats for literally anything they have done and he couldn't do either.
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Quote (IceMage @ Feb 2 2018 03:08pm)
Question for Trump supporters. Do you think these people involved, McCabe, Comey, Ohr, Rosenstein legitimately thought that Steele might be onto something, and with good will pursued this investigation? Or do you think they were political hacks seeking to undermine the Trump campaign and/or presidency? Black and white thinking there, but tell me what you think.


They had to have read the dossier. They had to have read the rather ridiculous allegations of bed-pissing and compromat and known how bogus their source was.
I think there's a better case to be made for them being willfully careless with bogus evidence in an effort to prop up an investigation in hopes of finding dirt on page, flynn, manafort, trump, than that it was all part of some snidely whiplash conspiracy to undermine trump from the get-go as part of a grand plan. That is to say, that they had a partisan political motivation in seeking out the fisa renewals, and tortured the evidence to produce the legitimacy they needed and fudged the application, but they probably had the sincere hope of finding something to legitimize their investigation after the fact. Yet they did this all while knowingly spying on a political campaign, which is itself something so politically toxic that as I've said many times before, an apolitical and good faith FBI would need extremely good reasons to do it for fear of the watergate-esque damage that could unfold from such spying.

It makes the FBI's counterintelligence operation very disturbingly similar to a democrat-led opposition research campaign. They never had good reason to be looking into Trump's campaign. If they were doing it in good faith, there would have been a high burden of evidence and extreme care taken not to jeopardize the apolitical station of the FBI. Instead there was a sloppy FISA application citing DNC oppo dressed up to self-corroborate and stripped of its partisan origins, then a series of dubious unmaskings, then high profile leaks of that data.

There's no way thats indicative of McCabe, Comey, Ohr, Rosenstein legitimately thinking that Steele might be on to something and pursuing it out of proper diligence and professionalism, no. And as you point out, its black-and-white thinking to pose a dichotomy, so if I had to put an arbitrary metric on it, if white as 0 and grey is 5 and black is 10, you're in the ~7 area.

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Here is the whole memo...



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Here is the whole memo...



https://i.imgur.com/aaTbT5Y.jpg


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What happened to Trey Gowdy?

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The FBI and the DOJ are beginning to look like they've been being bad little boys for the past 9-10 years....not just lately.

October 2017: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

January 2018: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public


Read both..in order and then consider these things...

1. The Dems are going nuts about this memo release.
2. The FBI and the DOJ and most of the higher up FBI and the DOJ figured prominently in both articles.


I'm wondering if this isn't gonna result it a huge scandal, that's been going on for a long ass time.



This is what I meant by "for the past 14 years or so".

It's seriously starting to look like the FBI and the DOJ have been pretty much 'working solely for the Dems', for a seriously long time now. Not only that, but the same names keep floating to the top of all the BS with the FBI and the DOJ.




/e After saying he wouldn't run in November, Trey Gowdy's word means nothing any more. :/



Gowdy latest Republican to retire from U.S. Congress

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-gowdy/gowdy-latest-republican-to-retire-from-u-s-congress-idUSKBN1FK2MF

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If you put all the pieces together here's what you get.
The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Bernie Sanders so Hilliary can win the nomination. Obama's administration starts to request surveillance on Trump, his family, his transition team, and anyone associated with him. Donna Brazil gives Hilliary the questions to a debate. The DNC pays Christopher Steele to come up with a smear dossier about Trump. The mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing women parts. After all this Trump still wins the General Election. Obama orders an investigation into Russia meddling in our elections. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data. The Democratic Party comes up with a scandal that Trump Colluded with Russia to win the election with no evidence or proof. This wild claim is backed up by the mainstream media. Obama hold overs start unmasking Trump's transition team and staff members then release the classified information to the mainstream media. Why? Because the DNC and the Obama administration colluded with the intelligence community to thwart Trump's campaign efforts to get him elected president. All this Russia collusion is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the DNC, along with the mainstream media used our nations surveillance as a political tool to try to get Hilliary elected President. This makes Watergate look like a kindergarten play. Let that sink in.......

/from another post

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If you put all the pieces together here's what you get.
The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Bernie Sanders so Hilliary can win the nomination. Obama's administration starts to request surveillance on Trump, his family, his transition team, and anyone associated with him. Donna Brazil gives Hilliary the questions to a debate. The DNC pays Christopher Steele to come up with a smear dossier about Trump. The mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing women parts. After all this Trump still wins the General Election. Obama orders an investigation into Russia meddling in our elections. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data. The Democratic Party comes up with a scandal that Trump Colluded with Russia to win the election with no evidence or proof. This wild claim is backed up by the mainstream media. Obama hold overs start unmasking Trump's transition team and staff members then release the classified information to the mainstream media. Why? Because the DNC and the Obama administration colluded with the intelligence community to thwart Trump's campaign efforts to get him elected president. All this Russia collusion is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the DNC, along with the mainstream media used our nations surveillance as a political tool to try to get Hilliary elected President. This makes Watergate look like a kindergarten play. Let that sink in.......

/from another post




Yep, yep. ^^


/e Inb4 the spamtards try to hide these last few posts under pages and pages of BS.

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