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Aug 22 2017 02:02pm
Quote (ampoo @ 22 Aug 2017 17:09)
grab them by the pussy vs hoping for someone to get murdered
i am not suprised you somehow manage to compare these two :lol:


nice try, not surprised you ignored the part where i specifically explained what i compared, in order to misrepresent my argument.

for the record, i was comparing her (inappropriate and rightfully criticised) comment, that she subsequently apologised for, to trump's comment, suggesting the "second amendment people" could "do something" about hillary - after FALSELY stating she planned to abandon it. i wonder where your and the other trump cultist's outrage was then. where was his apology? how did that not disqualify him from office, why were you not whining about it back then? the hypocrisy is really mindblowing.

inb4 massive dodge like when i asked you to elaborate what part about my confederate monument statement you disagree with...
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Aug 22 2017 02:55pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 22 2017 01:42pm)
Yeah BLM isn't a terrorist organization, they're a hate group
I can't stand when people get the two conflated. Just because you're a hate group doesn't necessarily make you a terrorist organization, even if some of your extremists go out and commit terrorism. Only if that terrorism is embraced.


Except a lot of them are white and don't hate white people....

The histrionics is getting old....

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Aug 22 2017 03:31pm
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Except a lot of them are white and don't hate white people....

The histrionics is getting old....


And most klansmen are white and don't hate white people either.
BLM isn't a white-hating group, its a blue-hating group.
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Aug 22 2017 03:45pm
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And most klansmen are white and don't hate white people either.
BLM isn't a white-hating group, its a blue-hating group.


I'm pretty sure they don't hate the blues they just want to stop being murdered by them.

No point in continuing, as you don't think that it is a problem, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
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Aug 22 2017 04:48pm
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I'm pretty sure they don't hate the blues they just want to stop being murdered by them.

No point in continuing, as you don't think that it is a problem, so we will just have to agree to disagree.


Except excuses don't change what they are. Every 'hate group' has its own ideology that justifies its hatred. You can say this hatred stems from real or perceived grievances, but the reason is irrelevant, its still a group preaching hatred.
Do you think there are groups that hate blacks, jews, muslims or gays or whatever but don't have reasons? 'Blacks are murdering whites', 'jews control our economy', etc etc

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Aug 22 2017 04:53pm
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Except excuses don't change what they are. Every 'hate group' has its own ideology that justifies its hatred. You can say this hatred stems from real or perceived grievances, but the reason is irrelevant, its still a group preaching hatred.
Do you think there are groups that hate blacks, jews, muslims or gays or whatever but don't have reasons? 'Blacks are murdering whites', 'jews control our economy', etc etc


They aren't preaching police hate. They are advocating for just change and reform. You can frame this however you like but they aren't calling for violence against police.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

Educate yourself friend.

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They aren't preaching police hate. They are advocating for just change and reform. You can frame this however you like but they aren't calling for violence against police.
http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/
Educate yourself friend.


When they march in the streets calling for dead cops, that's a call for violence against police
BLM is not an organized movement, there is no leadership that can declare what they stand for. They are decentralized and stand for whatever the marchers on the streets decide to make it about.
They are the ones marching with signs like "No KKKops", "No justice no peace, "Jail killer cops", "Fight back for victims of police terror", "Who do you call when the murderer wears a badge"
BLM has an explicitly anti-police message, they are against a group and express hatred for that group. They have no shortage of angry people expressing their hatred in the streets.
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Aug 22 2017 06:13pm
Quote (Skinned @ Aug 22 2017 02:29pm)
You will get zero empathy if you keep referring to BLM as a terrorist organization.

She's not allowed to protest murders by police?




Actually that was a quote from a news article. I don't call them terrorists...I call BLM a bunch of idiots.
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Aug 22 2017 06:16pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 22 2017 07:01pm)
When they march in the streets calling for dead cops, that's a call for violence against police
BLM is not an organized movement, there is no leadership that can declare what they stand for. They are decentralized and stand for whatever the marchers on the streets decide to make it about.
They are the ones marching with signs like "No KKKops", "No justice no peace, "Jail killer cops", "Fight back for victims of police terror", "Who do you call when the murderer wears a badge"
BLM has an explicitly anti-police message, they are against a group and express hatred for that group. They have no shortage of angry people expressing their hatred in the streets.


Those are relevant questions they're asking. Stuff is pretty bad in the hood....they are mistreated by people who are supposed to protect them. Its fucked up, psychologically speaking. Black parents have to have "the talk" with their kids about the police and people shouldn't have to love in fear of supposed public servants. You either disagree with this or think we're lying about it. Data shows we arwnt lying, and it is insane to try to tell a group of people what their experience is when you haven't lived it.

No KKKops is just criticism when the police officer who murdered Sam Dubose was wearing a confederate flag under his uniform. Ray Tensing had a mistrial with no plans to persecute...

Why shouldn't cops who murder people, unjustly, now be jailed? How is jail killer cops controversial? It isn't saying harm them, it wants the justice system to produce justice. That's important and will eventually come about.

Who do you call when you can't trust the police? Do you call the people killing your fathers brothers and sons for help? Fuck no. Ghettos don't get police protection.

What you seem to describe here are peoples' immediate actions after the police murder some unarmed black guy in shady circumstances. These are good reactions from good people. The vast majority of people do not like excessive police brutality.
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Aug 22 2017 06:21pm
That's all well and good, but let's stay on the topic.

About a seriously fucked up Senator in Missouri.



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Missouri senator who urged Trump assassination booted from committees

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/22/missouri-senator-who-urged-trump-assassination-booted-from-committees.html



Missouri lawmaker loses duties after Trump assassination remark, Lt. Gov. calls for her expulsion

http://www.kmbc.com/article/missouri-lawmaker-loses-duties-after-trump-assassination-remark/12049126






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