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Aug 21 2017 07:08am
Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Aug 21 2017 07:05am)
It can be detected. Zyklon B leaves a deep dark blue stain when it is used. Being "detected" does not mean it was used as a gas chamber.


How long does it have to be present to leave a deposite?

How high of a concentration?

How much and how long to kill somebody?
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 21 2017 12:56pm)
Is this where we start down a path of "do your own research" like card_sultan and his flat Earth? The intact gas chambers have been analyzed for the presence of cyanide compounds and been found to be present in not-insubstantial quantities. Unlike the barracks or other living buildings - which were also subjected to zyklon B for delousing. No, the gas chambers were repeatedly subjected to zyklon b, which is why it can still be detected, even today.

/e ...and since you want to cite the findings in the Leuchter report, let's point out how it's already been debunked, including "Prussian blue."


It can be detected. Zyklon B leaves a deep dark blue stain when it is used. Being "detected" does not mean it was used as a gas chamber.

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We still don't have a lick of evidence for homicidal gassing. So what happened after a gassing? Did the Germans just open up the windows to let out the cyanide gas ( lol )? Air it out a bit before they hauled off bodies? Seems awful labor intensive and pretty risky. How many times could you pull this off in a day? Yea right. Didn't happen.

Given the nature of WW2, and the previous attempts to destroy the German People, I will reiterate that this is nothing more than wartime propaganda. You need a little something to tell the people back at home that the reason millions of your children went off to die in a war was to benefit international financiers. Our grandfathers that stormed the beaches of Normandy, it was completely unnecessary. The troops they sent to their deaths in order to split up German forces, didn't need to happen. You have to make up a lie to make the Germans as evil as possible because there is no other way to justify going to war. And we ended up siding with Josef Stalin, who ACTUALLY had death camps. Real ones. But we have a whole lot of evidence for those. But somehow those sneaky germans were able to be super secret about theirs. They even built swimming pools in their death camps so that 70 years later people will see them and will have their doubts. At one point people were saying the Nazi's were making soap out of the Jews, or lampshades which all proved to be false.
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Aug 21 2017 10:13am
Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Aug 21 2017 01:46pm)
It can be detected. Zyklon B leaves a deep dark blue stain when it is used. Being "detected" does not mean it was used as a gas chamber.

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We still don't have a lick of evidence for homicidal gassing. So what happened after a gassing? Did the Germans just open up the windows to let out the cyanide gas ( lol )? Air it out a bit before they hauled off bodies? Seems awful labor intensive and pretty risky. How many times could you pull this off in a day? Yea right. Didn't happen.

Given the nature of WW2, and the previous attempts to destroy the German People, I will reiterate that this is nothing more than wartime propaganda. You need a little something to tell the people back at home that the reason millions of your children went off to die in a war was to benefit international financiers. Our grandfathers that stormed the beaches of Normandy, it was completely unnecessary. The troops they sent to their deaths in order to split up German forces, didn't need to happen. You have to make up a lie to make the Germans as evil as possible because there is no other way to justify going to war. And we ended up siding with Josef Stalin, who ACTUALLY had death camps. Real ones. But we have a whole lot of evidence for those. But somehow those sneaky germans were able to be super secret about theirs. They even built swimming pools in their death camps so that 70 years later people will see them and will have their doubts. At one point people were saying the Nazi's were making soap out of the Jews, or lampshades which all proved to be false.


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Aug 21 2017 11:34am
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 19 2017 07:43pm)
question for those who believe in the holocaust
http://i.imgur.com/AAvSOcy.png


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Aug 21 2017 03:15pm
I'm not saying the holoucast didn't happen but the numbers appear to be over exaggerated. I do not supporr Nazis or other hateful factions so I would appreciate not being verbally attacked. I all so believe dropping the Nuke and other war crimes that happened by both sides are horrific.

Truly doing your own research will show the truth and just being sheeped in to thinking one way is pathetic. Ppl should have to be afraid to be labeled a holocaust denier just for thinking it was exaggerated. Publicly shaming ppl for this is disgusting.
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Quote (Tuna_BeIIy @ Aug 20 2017 01:45pm)
Do americans over exaggerate pearl harbor?


Pearl harbor was a surprise attack that makes America look like the victims. The nuke we dropped on them was very over the top and one of Americans worst acts.

All so like to point out the similarities on bush reasons for war was WMDs and war time propaganda. ppl say if you don't study history you are doomed to repeat it.
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Aug 21 2017 03:37pm
Quote (aaron9999 @ Aug 21 2017 04:15pm)
but the numbers appear to be over exaggerated.

Based upon what exactly ?
Citations needed
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Aug 21 2017 03:38pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Aug 21 2017 01:37pm)
Based upon what exactly ?
Citations needed


I made post #2 of asking the same thing and it was never provided, don't get your hopes up
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432


Pages right out of the world almanac

1933 - 15.3 million population

1948 - 15.7 million population



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Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Aug 21 2017 08:05am)
It can be detected. Zyklon B leaves a deep dark blue stain when it is used. Being "detected" does not mean it was used as a gas chamber.


It's almost as if you completely ignored the post covering Prussian blue.

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The problem with Prussian blue is that it is by no means a categorical sign of cyanide exposure.[4] One factor necessary in its formation is a very high concentration of cyanide.[4] In terms of the difference between amounts measured in the delousing chambers and homicidal gas chambers, critics explain that the exact opposite of what deniers claim is true. Insects have a far higher resistance to cyanide than humans, with concentration levels up to 16,000ppm (parts per million) and an exposure time of more than 20 hours[5] (sometimes as long as 72 hours) being necessary for them to succumb. In contrast, a cyanide concentration of only 300ppm is fatal to humans in a matter of minutes.[6] This difference is one of the reasons behind the concentration disparity. Another exceedingly sensitive factor by which very small deviances could determine whether Prussian blue may form is pH. This element could be affected even by just the presence of human beings.[4] Also, while the delousing chambers were left intact, the ruins of the crematoria at Birkenau had been exposed to the elements for over forty years by the time Leuchter collected his samples. This would have severely affected his results, because unlike Prussian blue and other iron based cyanides, cyanide salts are highly soluble in water.[4]

Since the formation of Prussian blue is not an unconditional outcome of exposure to cyanide, it is not a reliable indicator. Leuchter and Rudolf claim to have measured much more cyanide in the delousing chambers than in the homicidal gas chambers, but since they did not discriminate against an unreliable factor, Green maintains that instant bias is introduced into their experiments.[4] Similarly, Rudolf acknowledges that Prussian blue does not always form upon exposure to cyanide and is thus not a reliable marker, yet continues to include the iron compounds in his analysis. Green describe this as "disingenuous".[6] Since a building that contains Prussian blue staining would exhibit much higher levels of detectable cyanides than one without anyway, Green writes that Leuchter's and Rudolf's measurements reveal nothing more than what is already visible to the naked eye.[4]


Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Aug 21 2017 08:46am)
We still don't have a lick of evidence for homicidal gassing. So what happened after a gassing? Did the Germans just open up the windows to let out the cyanide gas ( lol )? Air it out a bit before they hauled off bodies? Seems awful labor intensive and pretty risky. How many times could you pull this off in a day? Yea right. Didn't happen.

Given the nature of WW2, and the previous attempts to destroy the German People, I will reiterate that this is nothing more than wartime propaganda. You need a little something to tell the people back at home that the reason millions of your children went off to die in a war was to benefit international financiers. Our grandfathers that stormed the beaches of Normandy, it was completely unnecessary. The troops they sent to their deaths in order to split up German forces, didn't need to happen. You have to make up a lie to make the Germans as evil as possible because there is no other way to justify going to war. And we ended up siding with Josef Stalin, who ACTUALLY had death camps. Real ones. But we have a whole lot of evidence for those. But somehow those sneaky germans were able to be super secret about theirs. They even built swimming pools in their death camps so that 70 years later people will see them and will have their doubts. At one point people were saying the Nazi's were making soap out of the Jews, or lampshades which all proved to be false.


Bullshit:

Quote (Fritz Sander's testimony at Nuremburg @ responsible for building and maintaining the furnaces at Auschwitz)
I have known since spring 1943 that innocent human beings were being liquidated in Auschwitz gas chambers and that their corpses were subsequently incinerated in the crematoriums.

&

Q. Why was the brick lining of the muffles so quickly damaged?

A. The bricks were damaged after six months because the strain on the furnaces was colossal.


You should read the diary entries of Hanz Frank, the German governor of Poland, and the legal mind of the Reich.
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