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Nov 22 2013 10:12am
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 22 2013 10:16am)
God given right to drive cars?  That's new.


...chariots maybe but cars , no :lol:
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Nov 22 2013 03:25pm
Quote (Caedus @ Nov 20 2013 11:42pm)
Cash hand over fist isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Also, there's a good chance most parents couldn't afford to got to post-secondary let alone accumulate debt because of it. My father was born in the 40s, my mother in the 50s, my father could never afford to go to University and my mother racked up lots of debt.


You're missing the point. It wasn't as necessary back then to get a university degree as it is now. You could work your way up back then, now you can only do that to a certain extent.

The cost of a university education in real terms has exponentially increased since our parent's time.
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Quote (Wakeskater77 @ Nov 22 2013 03:25pm)
You're missing the point. It wasn't as necessary back then to get a university degree as it is now. You could work your way up back then, now you can only do that to a certain extent.

The cost of a university education in real terms has exponentially increased since our parent's time.


Hits the nail on the head. Before you could work 10 years and get promoted, now you get passed up because the position requires the degree regardless.
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Nov 22 2013 04:30pm
A college degree is exponentially more valuable than it was when my father dropped out of high school and went off on his own.
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Quote (datajunky @ Nov 17 2013 09:55pm)
I watch people who say that they are free who drive around in their cars knowing that the only reason they are doing this is because they were granted permission from the government to use a car to travel , they take that car to a job where they had to use a Social security or Social insurance number to be able to get permission to work. That card and number then allows them to work, also allows the state to inform the tax collectors that you have made a certain amount of money for your labor that they now can take from you , those taxes that they take from you are now used to buy surveillance cameras and fund police departments that are in place to make sure that you follow the rules set up by the government that issued you permission to work in the first place.

You need a license to fish , to hunt , to get married, to run a business, to sell things , to use your car , to work in certain trades , and to run a farm .

You need a permit to use your car , to own a pet , to build onto your house , to own a gun, to use a gun, to help the needy and most disturbing of all to hold a protest or to congregate among your peers in public.

You are told to declare your earnings and file a tax return and you are told that you must fill out a census to inform on your family and friends.

You need to go through an indoctrination program called school which gives you a diploma so that you can get a higher level of indoctrination in college or university and without this certificate you are considered unemployable to those people who take your money in the form of taxation.

When you are born you are given a certificate to become a citizen and that certificate identifies you as a "person" who is "subject" to the laws and rules of that society .

If you choose to revoke these contracts with the government or question the motives of these contracts for any reason you will have police sent out to either assault you , fine you , steal from you , or worst case they will kill you .

If for any reason you decide to travel abroad and do not have a government issued passport or birth certificate or citizenship card with you as a good and obedient card carrying slave you will be denied your right to travel the world. If you do happen to have these things you will be insulted , interrogated, searched and scanned with radiation until those with perceived authority deem you worthy of travel. A perfect slave is allowed these concessions.

You are not allowed access to your own body in the way of health . If you wish to remain healthy on your own terms that is considered anti social behavior, The state requires that you inject poisons into your body , drink fluoride , and if you choose to use natural healing products to rid yourself of pesky diseases created by the governments own health agencies and policy like chemical aerosol spraying and GMO's. you will be arrested for using alternative natural methods such as cannabis, hemp, or if you promote raw foods or alternative treatments such as apricot kernels , DCA , or other things that the government does not want you to know about you will be put on a list of suspected terrorism and or raided in the middle of the night by mercenaries .

If you choose to oppose the war , If you speak out against government policy, the obvious lies of 911, or Israel you will be arrested for hate crimes or called anti-semitic or a racist and persecuted to the point of exile .



So you think you are free ? Think again .



Driving a car isn't a right.
Paying taxes is something you have to do since you're living in the fucking country lol
Auto-ticket Cameras are illegal, and it's the fault of the people for allowing contractors like Lock-heed to mass produce these things without protest. They are unconstitutional and easily proven in court to get out of those tickets.

Could go on but yeah, it's the fault of the people for allowing the government to have such a hold on it's people these days. Imagine how America would look if EVERYONE of it's citizens were like this guy:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=521_1384992875
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Nov 22 2013 04:43pm
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 22 2013 02:30pm)
A college degree is exponentially more valuable than it was when my father dropped out of high school and went off on his own.


Uh...I strongly disagree. Yes, the economy has changed, but we have WAY more people as a percentage of the population with degrees now than we did back then. In addition, due to the globalization of the economy, we have to compete with other countries now as well. If you had a college degree back in your father's day, you had it MADE. Now, you're lucky to have a job.
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Nov 22 2013 04:49pm
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 22 2013 03:30pm)
A college degree is exponentially more valuable than it was when my father dropped out of high school and went off on his own.


...........wat

A 2 year degree back then would have gotten you an 80k/year job easily.

today a 2 year degree will get you an internship.
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Nov 22 2013 05:16pm
Quote (datajunky @ Nov 22 2013 08:26am)
You don't know how governments work. Clearly you need to refresh your knowledge. The government doesn't provide anything without us first giving them permission to provide it. Not everyone consents to be governed like a child.



I do not need permission to travel in my own personal conveyance. Not from you or any governing body. Anyone who tries to stop me is assaulting my god given right to travel.



You make a good slave.


You telling people they don't understand how government works when you can't grasp the most basic social contract example is hilarious.
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Nov 22 2013 07:06pm
i'm free to leave the country if i don't like its rules. if i do not wish to adhere to the rules of the society i can always move to somewhere else or become a substinence farmer/hunter in Siberia.

This post was edited by Gastly on Nov 22 2013 07:07pm
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Nov 22 2013 08:47pm
Quote (Soupreme @ Nov 22 2013 05:43pm)
Driving a car isn't a right.
Paying taxes is something you have to do since you're living in the fucking country lol
Auto-ticket Cameras are illegal, and it's the fault of the people for allowing contractors like Lock-heed to mass produce these things without protest. They are unconstitutional and easily proven in court to get out of those tickets.

Could go on but yeah, it's the fault of the people for allowing the government to have such a hold on it's people these days. Imagine how America would look if EVERYONE of it's citizens were like this guy:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=521%5F1384992875


I don't live IN a country, I live ON a country.
Do YOU know the difference?



Quote (Skinned @ Nov 22 2013 10:16am)
God given right to drive cars?  That's new.


I never said that.
Don't alter my words to suit the CORPORATE GOVERNMENT and their arguments. You are taught to defend these core principles of the social contract without question. (I don't blame you, we were all cut from the same cookie to think like servants)

Driving is a commercial word used to describe someone who is conducting commerce.
Cars are vehicles used by "drivers" and what I am describing is much different from a lawful standpoint.

Travelling in a personal conveyance is not the same as driving in a vehicle.
To the average joe like you and me these are identical terms, but legalese is much different and the definitions take on certain terms that obligate us into this social slavery contract.

Think about this police term for a moment:
"ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU"
Obviously it's best to just shut the fuck up when talking to cops. The reason for that is everything you say, hurts you.
If you say to a cop you're "driving" BAM you lose all rights as a lawful man and you become the corporate fiction who has no rights only privledges which can be taken away.

Quote (Santara @ Nov 22 2013 10:31am)
It's a close relative of the God given right to practice medicine on others, and the God given right to dump his used oil in the river.


More useless sarcasm stemming from misconstrued and misunderstood terms.

I dare you guys to think like a MAN instead of act like a child.
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