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May 25 2013 07:39am
Quote (TeaRs- @ May 25 2013 11:37pm)
even if its a lie you have to agree that the world would be better off being green


Its easy for us rich nations to say.
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May 25 2013 07:43am
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Its easy for us rich nations to say.


lol true, but as the technology gets better the costs will decrease for the older stuff
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May 25 2013 07:45am
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lol true, but as the technology gets better the costs will decrease for the older stuff


It is possible, if we still allow coal sales to third world countries the green revolution could do great good, if not then it could make the world a lot worse place for many.
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May 25 2013 07:45am
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No one has said anything beyond "Derp all scientists agree derp" which i have already demolished.


Out of curiosity, since just about every credible scientist in the world knows climate change is cause by people, who am I supposed to listen too? You? Alex Jones? Or some other mentally unstable fruitcake?

Haven't scientists earned our trust at this point? Scientists have cured diseases, sent a man to the moon, unlocked the mysteries of atomic energy and on and on...... Hell, your using a computer right now to make a fool of yourself. Scientists made computers my friend.



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Out of curiosity, since just about every credible scientist in the world knows climate change is cause by people, who am I supposed to listen too?  You?  Alex Jones?  Or some other mentally unstable fruitcake?

Haven't scientists earned our trust at this point?  Scientists have cured diseases, sent a man to the moon, unlocked the mysteries of atomic energy and on and on......  Hell, your using a computer right now to make a fool of yourself.  Scientists made computers my friend.


Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
Is not a creditable scientist on climate change?
I am not saying that climate change isn't happening, i am saying its not the huge deal it is made out to be, and many scientists agree.
The study that claims 97% of scientists agree with climate change is fundamentally flawed and has been debunked to shit, but its literally all you people have to cling to.

This post was edited by Lifebane99 on May 25 2013 07:48am
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Out of curiosity, since just about every credible scientist in the world knows climate change is cause by people, who am I supposed to listen too?  You?  Alex Jones?  Or some other mentally unstable fruitcake?

Haven't scientists earned our trust at this point?  Scientists have cured diseases, sent a man to the moon, unlocked the mysteries of atomic energy and on and on......  Hell, your using a computer right now to make a fool of yourself.  Scientists made computers my friend.


I'm not on either side of the argument, but I have one question. How did the Ice Age end if the Sun isn't the cause of the climate change? Surely the Sun is the most powerful impetus that we can possibly have in climate change?
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May 25 2013 08:18am
In the last two centuries humans have been releasing carbon from the slow cycle into the fast cycle. The rise in carbon levels is easily attributable to this. This will certainly have some effect on climate.


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In the last two centuries humans have been releasing carbon from the slow cycle into the fast cycle. The rise in carbon levels is easily attributable to this. This will certainly have some effect on climate.


Sure it will, but whether it will be a net positive or negative is the question, i think it will be a positive.
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May 25 2013 08:21am
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I'm not on either side of the argument, but I have one question. How did the Ice Age end if the Sun isn't the cause of the climate change?  Surely the Sun is the most powerful impetus that we can possibly have in climate change?


aren't ice ages attributed to the precession of earth? That is, the inclination of the axis changes from one extreme to the other in a cycle of 30 000 years or so.

Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 25 2013 04:19pm)
Sure it will, but whether it will be a net positive or negative is the question, i think it will be a positive.


the greenhouse effect is necessary for life on earth, and venus is an extreme example of the greenhouse effect. It's true the atmosphere is thicker, but it's mostly carbon dioxide.
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May 25 2013 08:24am
Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 24 2013 08:57pm)
Anthropological climate change is the single biggest exaggeration in the history of the human race, and every one pushing it was heavily invested in technologies that benefited from the lie.

So I see you don't disagree with the idea of anthropogenic climate change.
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