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May 19 2013 08:21pm
Quote (Gastly @ May 20 2013 12:18pm)
... want to hear about the time my grandfather



so, the Jews were better at financial things than the Germans were and thus very, very evil
well, it certainly mustn't have anything to do with the centuries of restrictions they faced that often pretty much forced them to work in the financial field
and with the average IQ of the Ashkenazi Jews being what it is it'd certainly be odd if they hadn't fared better than the Germans did
i have to say that this sounds exactly like someone might sound when bawwwing about how the evil whites keep da blak bruthas down

the part about communism might just be a tad bit more attractive to Jews because of promises such as "no more pogroms" and "even Jews can lead their lives without being assaulted by anyone"
i wonder though, were the Paris commune and the Finnish civil war also the work of Jews - or was it just a trend at the time?


If you do not see why rich jews coming from nearby countries that were not being fucked by the treaty of versalis coming into the country and buying the inhabitants homes and properties out from under them would make the native population angry you are beyond help.
"Better at finances" never entered the picture, germany was hyper inflated, the jews just came in and bought out everything they could.

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May 19 2013 08:23pm
Quote (RuckaRuckaAli @ May 18 2013 01:20am)
look around, there is a fuckin civil war upcoming in america? world war three? illuminati? all this death and destruction poverty starvation and shit, in any decent universe this asshole would have been out on his all powerfull ass a long time ago.


God created the illuminati, who do you think the 'all seeing eye' is.
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May 19 2013 08:24pm
Quote (brmv @ May 20 2013 12:17pm)
so you are basing your statements on hear-say
yes, there were private banks owned by jews in germany - some giving money to help the nsdap avoid bankruptcy because they were heavily anti-communist
but your numbers are not worth the pixels representing them
and while higher ratio of wealth per person was in jewish hands, the same is true today in many countries
but here too the numbers you have given are not worth the pixels representing them
maybe your family members believed the propaganda of the party machine after 1933
six years are plenty time to confuse people
don't forget that in 1933 hitler was the victor who wrote history


Yes, the situation is the same in many countries, how many of them are in poverty, have a treaty keeping them in poverty and are watching the jews buy out their country from underneath them?
It was a ticking time bomb.

Which makes more sense?
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because they didn't like them for no reason whatsoever?

Or:
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because the majority thought the jews were behind the ruination of their country?

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May 19 2013 08:29pm
View it like this
God does exist, though he is different than the world views him.
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May 19 2013 08:35pm
Quote (Gastly @ 20 May 2013 02:18)
... want to hear about the time my grandfather
so, the Jews were better at financial things than the Germans were and thus very, very evil
well, it certainly mustn't have anything to do with the centuries of restrictions they faced that often pretty much forced them to work in the financial field
and with the average IQ of the Ashkenazi Jews being what it is it'd certainly be odd if they hadn't fared better than the Germans did
was it that way prior to wwii and the holocaust?
i have to say that this sounds exactly like someone might sound when bawwwing about how the evil whites keep da blak bruthas down
the part about communism might just be a tad bit more attractive to Jews because of promises such as "no more pogroms" and "even Jews can lead their lives without being assaulted by anyone"
is that the reason why so many jews migrated to russia after the october revolution? :rolleyes:
i wonder though, were the Paris commune and the Finnish civil war also the work of Jews - or was it just a trend at the time?


while many secular jews in eruope had and have more liberal views (including communistic ones, eg rosa luxemburg) there were plenty conservative ones to balance against that
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May 19 2013 08:40pm
Quote (Lifebane99 @ 20 May 2013 02:24)
Yes, the situation is the same in many countries, how many of them are in poverty, have a treaty keeping them in poverty and are watching the jews buy out their country from underneath them?
It was a ticking time bomb.
Which makes more sense?
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because they didn't like them for no reason whatsoever?
Or:
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because the majority thought the jews were behind the ruination of their country?


perfect, the bolded is typical nazi propaganda - hitler wanted to take the money away from the jews was the key reason
don't forget that 'offers' were made to other countries to take all the jews but without any money
but without the money other countries were not interested - which fostered a guilty conscience in some countries after wwii
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May 19 2013 08:43pm
Quote (brmv @ May 20 2013 12:40pm)
perfect, the bolded is typical nazi propaganda - hitler wanted to take the money away from the jews was the key reason
don't forget that 'offers' were made to other countries to take all the jews but without any money
but without the money other countries were not interested - which fostered a guilty conscience in some countries after wwii


Of course he wanted to take the money, but the money belonged to germany, the jews came when the country was at its most vulnerable and pretty much pillaged it by buying out starving business owners.
And you cant bold the text without accounting for the whole statement.
The jews DID come en masse into germany after world war 1 and buy out everything they could, it is a fact.
I would resent this happening to my country.

Ever think the reason nazi propaganda worked so well is because there was truth behind some of it?

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Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 20 2013 05:21am)
If you do not see why rich jews coming from nearby countries that were not being fucked by the treaty of versalis coming into the country


[citation needed]
hint: i won't take your grandfather's ramblings as proof of anything

Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 20 2013 05:24am)
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because they didn't like them for no reason whatsoever?


... or rather because of the rampant anti-Jewish attitudes that were common all over Europe at the time
i wonder why the Romanians were upset at the Jews - because if I were to ask a Hungarian it was the Jews fault that Hungary lost Transylvania to Romania :rofl:

Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 20 2013 05:24am)
Germany wanted to wipe out the jews because the majority thought the jews were behind the ruination of their country?


i've really got a hard time trying to paint the Germans as agreeable and likable chaps
i mean - why in the bloody hell were they upset at the Belarusians? like a quarter of the inhabitants perished and most of the cities were wrecked because of them
the Russian academy of science does indeed claim that like 20% of the inhabitants in the occupied parts of the Soviet Union perished at German hands

Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 20 2013 05:45am)
I posted a link, and said to read it before you comment, hence until you do so i will not bother arguing with you.


i've read it thrice now and i still don't see anything about Jews immigrating to Germany (the part which i asked some sources of, if possible) - what i see is people complaining about the horrible and terrible of the international Jewry which really doesn't serve as proof of anything

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Quote (Gastly @ May 20 2013 12:44pm)
[citation needed]
hint: i won't take your grandfather's ramblings as proof of anything



... or rather because of the rampant anti-Jewish attitudes that were common all over Europe at the time
i wonder why the Romanians were upset at them - because if I were to ask a Hungarian it was the Jews fault that Hungary lost Transylvania to Romania  :rofl:



i've really got a hard time trying to paint the Germans as agreeable and likable chaps
i mean - why in the bloody hell were they upset at the Belarusians? like a quarter of the inhabitants perished and most of the cities were wrecked because of them
the Russian academy of science does indeed claim that like 20% of the inhabitants in the occupied parts of the Soviet Union perished at German hands


I posted a link, and said to read it before you comment, hence until you do so i will not bother arguing with you.
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Quote (Lifebane99 @ 20 May 2013 02:43)
Of course he wanted to take the money, but the money belonged to germany, the jews came when the country was at its most vulnerable and pretty much pillaged it by buying out starving business owners.
And you cant bold the text without accounting for the whole statement.
The jews DID come en masse into germany after world war 1 and buy out everything they could, it is a fact.
jewish population in germany in 1910 was over 600,000 more than it was in 1933 - another unsubstantiated statement of yours
I would resent this happening to my country.
Ever think the reason nazi propaganda worked so well is because there was truth behind some of it?


there has been resentment and prejudices everywhere in the world against the jews
just check on henry ford's publications in the 1920s
but the resentments and prejudices did not spring up in the early 20th century
don't forget that there was an ingrained hostility of christians against jews for centuries
so was there a fertile base for propaganda, yes - but would something have happened without the propaganda, no
the jews lived more or less peaceful amongst the germans, many considered themselves foremost germans themselves at that time and
don't forget that yiddish (now the carrier of german words into the american dictionary) evolved and gained momentum in a long period of coexistence
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