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Mar 27 2013 10:27am
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I hope i am wrong I don't see how you can change what i see they doing...
This is the problem right here. If you don't know how a belief could be falsified, even in principle, it is a tautology, and has no value.

Consider the following two situations:

1. Aircraft are secretly dispersing chemicals (other than H2O and CO2) into the air, which leaves a white streak behind the airplane.
2. Aircraft engines are releasing H2O into the air, which leaves a white streak behind the airplane.

How can you tell the difference between these 2 situations? This is the whole problem. We know aircraft will leave a white streak behind them based on #2, so you can't use that as evidence for the existence of #1 (since even if #1 is false, there will still be white streaks).

So we want evidence for #1, that does not involve things that would be produced by #2. A good way is you could document the enormous money trail that should exist to pays off the hundreds of thousands of meteorologists, chemists, pilots, FAA employees, aircraft mechanics, ground crews, laboratories, truck drivers, airliners, and others involved in manufacturing, delivery, instillation, the dispersal of these chemicals.

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Mar 27 2013 10:28am
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5 corporations or free speech from millions hmmm where is the truth more likely to be found where there is 5 people controling it
You have gone on about this before. Please tell us exactly who these 5 people are. You must know who they are right?

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#93
Mar 27 2013 10:29am
Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 27 2013 09:56am)
like con trails should do? well I am in California sky not as cold here I can see airliners go by some do not stay around and some spray something out that does... soo I don't think it is as you say condensation


Appearance if contrails and their longevity depends in meteorological conditions, altitude of a/c, type of a/c (flared wing tips or no?), speed and countless other variables.



Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 27 2013 09:44am)
ha now you ask trust me i seen it turn from blue to a milky white, maybe you have not noticed this affect when they spray the sky? you think contrails can do this you are mistaken...they use cleaner fuel ...but 1 idea is using dirty fuel on airliners too highten the blanket affect they want too achieve


The contrails are frozen water vapor, not smog.

Phone is too small. I'll read rest later.

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#94
Mar 27 2013 10:30am
Quote (Azrad @ Mar 27 2013 09:27am)
This is the problem right here. If you don't know how a belief could be falsified, even in principle, it is a tautology, and has no value.

Consider the following two situations:

1. Aircraft are secretly dispersing chemicals (other than H2O and CO2) into the air, which leaves a white streak behind the airplane.
2. Aircraft engines are releasing H2O into the air, which leaves a white streak behind the airplane.

How can you tell the difference between these 2 situations? This is the whole problem. We know aircraft will leave a white streak behind them based on #2, so you can't use that as evidence for the existence of #1 (since even if #1 is false, there will still be white streaks).

So we want evidence for #1, that does not involve things that would be produced by #2. A good way you could provide this evidence is show the enormous money trail that should exist to pays off the hundreds of thousands of meteorologists, chemists, pilots, FAA employees, aircraft mechanics, ground crews, laboratories, truck drivers, airliners, and other involved in manufacturing, deliver, instillation, the dispersal of these chemicals.



um you have a good point but is not their job at risk if they talk about such things and woyuld they not just use military for such action?

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Mar 27 2013 10:32am
Gee, I can find YouTube links, too.

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Mar 27 2013 10:33am
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um you have a good point but is not their job at risk if they talk about such things
There is a money trail even if people are kept quiet.

Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 27 2013 09:30am)
and woyuld they not just use military for such action?
Uhh how would the military produce, deliver, install, and maintain the equipment and chemicals needed for commercial flights to release chemtrails without people in the commercial sector noticing?!?

Oh that is right, you said in a different thread that the military does not have to follow the laws of physics, so why should they bother with airplanes at all, just magic that shit up there!

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Mar 27 2013 10:38am
Quote (Azrad @ Mar 27 2013 09:33am)
There is a money trail even if people are kept quiet.

Uhh how would the military produce, deliver, install, and maintain the equipment and chemicals needed for commercial flights to release chemtrails?!?!

Oh that is right, you said in a different thread that the military does not have to follow the laws of physics, so why should they bother with airplanes at all, just magic that shit up there!


I never said they don't follow the laws of physics come on now I said you are using the wrong equations for what they do soo in affect they work around the equation you must be using by adding too it..
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Mar 27 2013 10:42am
Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 27 2013 09:38am)
I never said they don't follow the laws of physics

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Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 20 2013 10:05pm)
Like it or not I think they [military] could work around any law of physics you think you know...


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#99
Mar 27 2013 10:53am
Quote (Azrad @ Mar 27 2013 09:42am)
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meaning you use the wrong equation is all..off subject and just attacks when i start making sense he cannot argue with ...simple logic is your destruction of lies you want too keep...Don't attack me and make it look like i am a fruite cake when i post simple logic ...

5 corporations want you believe free speech is nothing but lies when they tell you truth...simple logic....now they need too attack me when logic points at youtube for more truths then media...

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Mar 27 2013 10:56am
Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 27 2013 09:53am)
Don't attack me and make it look like i am a fruite cake
Oh I don't need to do anything to make you look like a fruitcake, you are doing fine on your own.

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5 corporations what you believe free speech is nothing but lies when they tell you truth
You said 5 people (run the media or something?), please name them. Surely you must know their names right?!? I mean that is a pretty serious claim, I'm sure you would at least know their names, right?

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