Quote (Matao @ Sep 7 2011 11:40am)

im telling you what people i talked to were actually saying in the days and weeks after the event
2 wrongs make a right ?  just where the fuck do i say it was right ?
the " norm " ? , maybe in america , but you are decieving yourself if you dont think americas image overseas isnt of a bloodthirsty nation

you just have to ask yourself why it actually happened
literally millions of people died at americas hands before 9/11
literally millions of people around the world rejoiced at the news of the attack

you can beleive they did it because " the hate freedom " all you want ( if thats what u beleive )
the truth is , there is no lack of normal  , average , able bodied men around the world willing to fight america , so long as they beleive they have some chance of victory
and that kind of hate didnt happen all on its own ....

Quote (Matao @ Sep 7 2011 09:27am)

only americans died ?
innocent huh ?

the 2 most common versions at the time would be the analogy of the innocent nazi ( yeah , im a nazi  , and yeah , i knew the jews were getting it , but the furher said they were destroying our country , and i didnt actually gas any of them myself , so what did i do wrong ? )
and the simple fact , that for decades , the only people who were able to stop the usa from killing so many people , destroying so many lives , were the american voters , and they didnt do it ( here they would say they are culpable  , and just because some of us may be aware that the american political institutions were hijacked long ago , and that voting basically doesnt really matter there anymore , doesnt mean that those with the greatest axe to grind with american know that )

maybe they liked their " cheap gas " , maybe they " didnt know " what their govt was doing  "in their name " ( here they would say they needed to become aware , and previous attempts had failed , and again , simply because some of us are aware that the american general public is probably the most heavily indoctrinated in modern history , doesnt mean those who have survived american " imperialism " know this )

and the focus on individuals is deceptive
if al-quada did do it , then they certainly didnt do it to " punish " those in the buildings
nor did they do it because  " they are freedom haters " , nor because " they are religious crazies "
but i guess the term collateral damage only applies to non americans

there are facts that , simply , are basically unspeakable in american society
that doesnt mean we dont speak them elsewhere

Quote (Matao @ Sep 7 2011 09:40am)

im telling you what people i talked to were actually saying in the days and weeks after the event
2 wrongs make a right ?  just where the fuck do i say it was right ?
the " norm " ? , maybe in america , but you are decieving yourself if you dont think americas image overseas isnt of a bloodthirsty nation

you just have to ask yourself why it actually happened
literally millions of people died at americas hands before 9/11
literally millions of people around the world rejoiced at the news of the attack

you can beleive they did it because " the hate freedom " all you want ( if thats what u beleive )
the truth is , there is no lack of normal  , average , able bodied men around the world willing to fight america , so long as they beleive they have some chance of victory
and that kind of hate didnt happen all on its own ....

Quote (JEB90 @ Sep 7 2011 04:06pm)

Americans are like Nazis?  IF al Qaeda did it?  We're bloodthirsty? We made the hate happen?

I guess as these are the kinds of people you associate with, it explains a lot of your posts.

Quote (Matao @ Sep 7 2011 09:20am)

i was 26 , and flicking thru the channels late at night , when i came across the 1st tower smoking
watched the 2nd tower get hit
watched them both fall
was better than a late night movie

and the next day  , talking to friends , we mostly tended to agree
you reap what you sow

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 7 2011 08:48am)

If you have any vivid memories of that day and how it affected you please feel fee to share them here .

I have seen many important historical events unfold in my lifetime including the Vietnam War , the political assassinations of the late 1960's and Watergate and none have affected me as deeply as that one single day in September .

Quote (JEB90 @ Sep 7 2011 07:06pm)

Americans are like Nazis?  IF al Qaeda did it?  We're bloodthirsty? We made the hate happen?

I guess as these are the kinds of people you associate with, it explains a lot of your posts.

Quote (Mutantlord @ Sep 7 2011 10:58am)

no nazis better they didnt say" only way to stop war one world goverment" like you  twin towers just excuse for your hunger of power again my post in last page ignored as a classical american tactic by some people

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 7 2011 12:46pm)

I remember it quite vividly myself.

I was in the last year of primary school, and came home to find my sister clinged to the radio whilst doing her homework. She told me that the Twin Towers collapsed and I thought she was joking, and when the radio confirmed it I thought it was a joke from the radio show. We proceeded to turn the tv on and watch in shock and awe as we realized what had happened. I gasped when the images of the airplanes crashing into those towers were repeated. I had tears in my eyes when I saw all those people on the higher floors who jumped to their deaths, their last act of desperation.

No other event in my living history has left such a lasting impression (Utoya comes close, but not quite), not just with me but with the whole world. I hope that the memorial will serve as a lasting point of remembrance, lest we not forget.