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Jan 12 2026 09:17pm
a person committed to disbelieving cant be shown acceptable proof. because one is competing with imagination.
had the same discussion few months ago. were we watch the 'atheisrt come up with all kinds of escapes.
one of them was "if it was written in the stars its God believe in me" the non believer replied "i would just think the aliens were trying to trick me"
how can one ever break through that kind of hubris?


Got a selfie of you and jesus your best bud who is totally real and not part of your imagination?

If yes we can end this whole debate.
If not maybe you are the one who refuses to be convinced and not the other way around.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 12 2026 09:18pm
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Jan 12 2026 09:29pm
Got a selfie of you and jesus your best bud who is totally real and not part of your imagination?

If yes we can end this whole debate.
If not maybe you are the one who refuses to be convinced and not the other way around.


"I'll only believe Christianity if I see someone take a selfie with Jesus in the flesh" - addone.

Nothing but a troll.
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Jan 12 2026 09:30pm
Got a selfie of you and jesus your best bud who is totally real and not part of your imagination?

If yes we can end this whole debate.
If not maybe you are the one who refuses to be convinced and not the other way around.


Closest we got is internet Jesus moist critical
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Jan 12 2026 09:37pm
"I'll only believe Christianity if I see someone take a selfie with Jesus in the flesh" - addone.

Nothing but a troll.


Bad dodge is bad. I'll even settle for a voice recording if he is camera shy. He did promise to comeback or was that all a lie? It's been over 2000 years where you at ?
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Jan 12 2026 10:03pm
Closest we got is internet Jesus moist critical


The resemblance is uncanny.

I am trying to catch the ever elusive toast jesus so far no luck





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Jan 12 2026 10:27pm
Bad dodge is bad. I'll even settle for a voice recording if he is camera shy. He did promise to comeback or was that all a lie? It's been over 2000 years where you at ^jesus ?


You've dodged every post that countered your trust me bro argument. You are simply just trolling at this point.
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Jan 12 2026 10:38pm
If you cut open a rock into 2 it is no longer an addition it becomes division. This is why I don't debate homeless philosophers who do not relate back to the physical/practical. Because they talk in circles about nebulous nonsense thats not grounded in reality.

Have fun talking to yourself on a park bench about universal identity of rocks or w/e the fuck.

your understanding of the issue of the ontological status of "1+1=2" in relation to cutting a rock to find the metaphysical identity of the truth of "1+1=2" is a category error if you are attempting to equate the action of cutting a rock having an ontological change on the universal identity "1+1=2" becoming divison

"grounded in reality" is my entire point, you don't actually have a grounding in reality.. whatever "reality" is in your worldview

fair enough, wanted to see if you had something valid to the discussion of theology but you're simply not interested in anything more than insulting the bible based off your interpretations without any grounding for the tools you are using to attempt to criticize
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Jan 12 2026 11:04pm
Again, you are not reading scripture as intended.

These are complementary perspectives, not competing accounts.

The text says:

“No shrub of the field had yet appeared… for the LORD God had not sent rain… and there was no man to work the ground.”

Genesis 1 → wild vegetation created

Genesis 2 → agriculture not yet begun

No contradiction, just different categories.

As far as the animals, This is a pluperfect (past perfect) sense. The animals were already created. God is now bringing them to Adam to be named.

So Genesis 2:19 does not say animals were created after man—only that they were presented after man.

“Man and woman created together” vs. “woman created later”

Genesis 1:27: Humanity is described collectively—“male and female he created them.”

Genesis 2:21–22: The narrative explains how woman was created.

Again, not a contradiction.


Sigh...

The land produced vegetation
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and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth

Either it produced or it didn't produce which is it? It does not explicitly state all plants were created except for agricultural variety. You are choosing to add that part in and interpret it to favour of your argument. I am reading it how it is. Hence why there are soo many versions of the bible because everyone seems to think their interpretation is the right one.


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Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air.

Notice how you ignored the first part which states that he formed the animals now, not before not later but now. THEN the next sentence he brought them to man


"So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam [10] no suitable helper was found." <-- Which means no woman yet

Adam was made clearly first then the animals and because he didnt have a helper a woman was made out of his rib (lol ok let's just pretend this isnt a typical mythological fairytale thing to do).
This woman out of a rib part would be fine if it was placed straight after Adam and before the animals but it isn't. Hence the chronological inconsistency and directly contradicts Genesis 1.
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Jan 12 2026 11:15pm
The resemblance is uncanny.

I am trying to catch the ever elusive toast jesus so far no luck

https://imgur.com/TFQdq2j.jpeg

https://imgur.com/5oG627u.jpeg

https://imgur.com/DaFAxP5.jpeg


The rare Jesus toast packs are expensive and only found in the vary rare god packs. Super low pull rate
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Jan 12 2026 11:27pm
Got a selfie of you and jesus your best bud who is totally real and not part of your imagination?

If yes we can end this whole debate.
If not maybe you are the one who refuses to be convinced and not the other way around.


you want Jesus to perform tricks for you, when would it ever stop?
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