Canada's gdp per capita has stagnated and lags pretty much all major developed nations since 2015 when it comes to actual growth. Today young people are poorer while everything around you costs more. Immigrants also pile into already densely populated areas like the greater Toronto area and southern Ontario and young families have no chance to buy even starter homes that are what 600, 700, 800k? lol. Complete delusion to think immigration has been a net positive during the last 5-10 years.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 8 2025 07:44pm

Don't misrepresent my statement, and pretend like you don't know whats going on.
You deflect all of the blame, just like Indians do with Dalit in India whenever fault arises.

Let’s separate facts from frustration. Canada’s GDP stagnation isn’t caused by immigration—it’s a failure of domestic policy. Weak business investment, pathetic R&D spending, and decades of NIMBY-driven housing shortages are the real culprits. Look at Australia: they take more immigrants per capita but grew GDP per person 2.5 times faster than Canada since 2015.

Housing is unaffordable because we stopped building enough homes. Toronto constructed more houses in the 1970s with half today’s population. Blame zoning laws and speculators, not newcomers. If immigrants caused price surges, rents wouldn’t be skyrocketing in cities with shrinking populations too.

Wage stagnation? Show me the data. Sectors with the fewest immigrants (like oil and mining) aren’t booming—they’re struggling like everyone else. This is a global greedflation story, not an immigration one.

And the alternative? Without immigrants, Canada would face a 1:1 worker-to-retiree ratio by 2030. Enjoy your pension when there’s nobody left to fund it.

Immigrants are the scapegoat for decades of bad policy.

Bad policy includes letting in 5 million people that 100% put pressure on wages, and this is common knowledge that's easily googleble, you not knowing about it just shows you're not knowledgeble on the subject.




https://www.canadaaction.ca/canada-third-lowest-gdp-per-capita-growth-oecd-nations

And Carney is capping immigration. This guy is a clown

Your oversimplified 'common knowledge' about immigration suppressing wages doesn't hold up to actual data. The reality is far more nuanced. High-skilled immigration has been shown to increase wages for native workers according to StatsCan research. Temporary foreign workers in low-wage sectors represent less than 3% of Canada's workforce - hardly enough to move the needle nationally. The wage stagnation you're describing is a global phenomenon affecting countries with both high and low immigration rates, which should tell you the causes run deeper.

You're missing the real drivers of wage pressure: corporate concentration giving employers too much power (80% of wage suppression comes from dominant players in sectors like telecom and groceries), abuses of temporary worker programs that labor groups have been fighting for years, and automation/offshoring that have eliminated far more jobs than immigration ever could.

Your fixation on '5 million people' ignores that Canada added 2.4 million jobs since 2015 - more than the working-age immigrant arrivals during that period. Look at immigrant-heavy sectors like tech and healthcare - they're seeing the fastest wage growth in the country. Maybe broaden your research beyond reactionary echo chambers if you actually want to understand Canada's economic challenges.

Mark Carney isn't calling to end immigration - he's proposing smarter immigration policies tied to housing and infrastructure, which is exactly what economists have recommended for years. Even under his plan, Canada would still need historically high immigration levels because our birth rate is just 1.4 and over 100,000 boomers retire each year. Maybe actually read his proposal instead of repeating talking points.

The real joke is pretending Canada could: freeze immigration without collapsing healthcare (where 1 in 4 workers are immigrants), solve housing by blaming newcomers instead of fixing zoning laws, or grow the economy while excluding 37% of our STEM workforce who are immigrants.

If you support Carney's approach, then you agree we need sustained immigration - just better managed. But that doesn't fit the simplistic fantasy where all problems disappear if we stop immigration. The numbers don't lie, even if they don't match your prejudices.

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Blames government for the mess and in same breath defends their policy of lose immigration that led to this because…reasons. Lol no point in arguing with this level of intellectual dishonesty. Good job on reelecting the same govt that made this happen over the last 10 years.

You're conflating two separate issues to avoid engaging with reality. Recognizing that immigration is necessary for Canada's survival doesn't mean defending every policy decision. We can simultaneously: acknowledge immigrants are net economic contributors (StatsCan data), demand better housing/zoning/transit policies to accommodate growth, and criticize poor credential recognition systems.

Your false binary - either 'blame immigrants' or 'defend all government policy' - is exactly the intellectual dishonesty you claim to oppose. The adults in the room know complex problems require nuanced solutions beyond scapegoating.