Why Poland likes to be in the EU, lol

Pay up suckers

No, the **1947 elections in Poland were not fair**. They were heavily manipulated by the communist authorities, with widespread fraud, intimidation, and violence.

### **Key Reasons Why the Elections Were Rigged:**

1. **Terror and Repression:**
- The communist-controlled secret police (**UB**) and Soviet NKVD **arrested thousands** of opposition activists before the election.
- Political opponents were **beaten, tortured, or murdered**.
- The Polish People’s Party (**PSL**, the main opposition) faced constant harassment, with its leaders under surveillance and members being arrested.

2. **Elimination of Opposition:**
- Many **candidates were disqualified** or forced to withdraw.
- The PSL, led by **Stanisław Mikołajczyk**, was the only major non-communist party, but it was weakened by repression.
- Other democratic groups were banned or infiltrated by communists.

3. **Electoral Fraud:**
- Ballot boxes were **stuffed with fake votes**.
- The vote count was **manipulated** by the authorities.
- The real results were never officially disclosed.

4. **Soviet Influence:**
- Stalin personally ensured that the elections would produce a **pro-communist result**.
- Soviet advisors helped plan the fraud.

### **Official vs. Estimated Real Results:**
- The communist-controlled **"Democratic Bloc"** (PPR, PPS, SL, SD) officially won **over 80%** of the vote.
- The **PSL likely received around 60-70% of real votes**, but this was falsified.

### **Outcome and Consequences:**
- **Communists fully took control of Poland**, eliminating the last hopes for democracy.
- **Mikołajczyk fled the country**, fearing arrest or execution.
- Poland became a Soviet **satellite state**, leading to decades of communist rule.

This was one of the most **fraudulent elections in Polish history** and marked the final step in Poland’s transition to a communist dictatorship under Soviet control.

Proof of election fraud or interference? Or are you just denying elections with no evidence?

This is pocket money.
We spend 4 times more money on military than this.
A military that is needed because countries like Germany dont spend enough money on their army.
We are also protecting eastern EU border from Belarus/Russia people smuggling into EU. This also costs money.

This is a public information, straight from chatgpt which was fed with various scientific and historic books.

Repressions against "elites" (nazi collaborators) != genocide, otherwise USSR was genociding Russians too.

Has there ever been a year where Poland net contributed to the EU budget?

Eastern EU countries have always resisted EU immigration policies and refuse to accept immigrants that are being shuffled around by the EU and I actually agree with that.

But you should just be honest about it. It's countries like Italy and Germany that absorb the most migrants AND they're net contributors to the EU.

Poland is blocking a handful of migrants and somehow it's big news because of anti Belarus / Russia / Putin sentiment while the EU gets flooded with migrants from Greece / Italy. It's called propaganda

I already posted that we contribute by protecting eastern EU border and having military expenses to cover for Russia risk.
These are much, much more bigger costs than the amounts we get from EU budgets.
Also when you get money from EU, for example to build a road, you need to meet strict environment requirements like pathways for wild animals, or low CO2 emissions.
Germany absorbed many imigrants, but they invited them to come to Europe. So they kind of get what they wanted and now complain they dont want these people anymore becuase too many responded for invitation...

This post was edited by Ironfister on Mar 25 2025 08:18am

Getting ChatGPT to conduct a Google search for your lazy ass isn't evidence..

Show me hard evidence. Documentation, photo evidence, video evidence, physical evidence.

The elections were recognized as legitimate by all the Allied states, notably USA Britain and France. They were not in dispute. Show me the court cases

The Western Allies (the **United States** and **Great Britain**) **reluctantly accepted** the rigged **1947 elections in Poland** mainly because they had little power to challenge Soviet control over Eastern Europe. Here’s why:

### **1. Poland Was Already in the Soviet Sphere**
- At the **Yalta Conference (1945)**, Stalin, Churchill, and Roosevelt agreed that Poland would have a **"government of national unity"**, including both communists and non-communists.
- However, Stalin **ignored this promise** and ensured that Poland remained under Soviet influence.
- By 1947, Poland was already **occupied by the Red Army**, and the **Polish communist government** was backed by Moscow. The West had **no realistic way** to force a fair election.

### **2. The Cold War Was Just Beginning**
- In 1947, the West was **not yet fully ready** to confront the USSR.
- The U.S. and Britain **protested the election fraud**, but they were focused on rebuilding Western Europe, dealing with crises in Greece and Turkey, and avoiding direct conflict with the USSR.
- The **Truman Doctrine** (which openly opposed communism) was announced **only two months later** in March 1947, showing that Western resistance to Soviet expansion was still forming.

### **3. Fear of Another War**
- The West was exhausted from **World War II** and unwilling to risk **World War III** over Poland.
- The Red Army was still stationed in Eastern Europe, and any strong Western intervention could have led to a military confrontation.

### **4. Realpolitik: Choosing Their Battles**
- The U.S. and Britain **prioritized the recovery of Western Europe** over Eastern Europe.
- They focused on **securing Germany**, preventing communism in France and Italy, and **launching the Marshall Plan** (1948).

### **5. Betrayal of Polish Interests**
- Poland had been an ally in World War II, but strategic decisions made at Yalta and Potsdam had already **sacrificed Polish independence** to Soviet influence.
- The West **could do little** beyond issuing weak diplomatic protests.

### **Conclusion: A Symbolic Protest, but No Action**
The Allies **never truly "accepted"** the elections as fair, but they had no practical way to reverse Soviet control. They **protested diplomatically** but ultimately focused on containing communism elsewhere, marking the beginning of the Cold War. This left Poland **firmly under Soviet rule** until 1989.