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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 23 2024 11:55am)
In Argentina most of the graft was overt and explicit, while in America its buried in incomprehensible bureaucracy. How do we delve into public works and figure out who is being paid to do nothing?
Argentina just had direct patronage and no-show jobs, people paid for nothing but organizing voters around elections for the socialists.
In the American pubic sector, how do you distinguish the actual output of a mid level manager, or assistant principal, or compliance officer? Yes there is some low hanging fruit like diversity officers, but its a tiny insignificant %.


State of Emergency is the only option such that the public employees can be audited in whole which would necessarily involve treading on their civil liberties, accessing their private information, etc. Even then it's still difficult to root everything out, but the more overt bad actors can be revealed this way

We already have a pretense for this (Covid state of emergency) so I don't see it as an issue

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In Argentina most of the graft was overt and explicit, while in America its buried in incomprehensible bureaucracy. How do we delve into public works and figure out who is being paid to do nothing?
Argentina just had direct patronage and no-show jobs, people paid for nothing but organizing voters around elections for the socialists.
In the American pubic sector, how do you distinguish the actual output of a mid level manager, or assistant principal, or compliance officer? Yes there is some low hanging fruit like diversity officers, but its a tiny insignificant %.


I think part of it is starting with defining the mission and purpose of some of these agencies and basically re-focusing the scope of their existence and not allow mission creep. For example, the department of education. They really should only exist to set some minimum curriculum criteria, in math, science, etc. for the entire country that's competitive with global leaders, then how that's accomplished is mostly on the states. Maybe update guidance on certain things every few years as new science comes out, rework standardized tests. Do we actually need 4,400 people working there though? What exactly do they actually do? We can probably cut 1/3 of that department and consolidate it and no one would notice a difference.

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There is a thing in bureaucracy: if they work more effective than previous term, their budget is cut :lol: That's why in every modern bureaucracy people try to expend all of the yearly budget as fast as possible before the yearly audit arrives. In privat profit driven companies, you have entities which can estimate the usage and output to counter that. In government, the bloat gets bloated every year with no real evidence as of why. The AI approach is the only right one to identify the hotspots first. I am also supervising application of the modern process mining algorithms in our company. You get to know stuff buried very deeply between countless regulations which costs lots of money with little return.

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There is a thing in bureaucracy: if they work more effective than previous term, their budget is cut :lol: That's why in every modern bureaucracy people try to expend all of the yearly budget as fast as possible before the yearly audit arrives. In privat profit driven companies, you have entities which can estimate the usage and output to counter that. In government, the bloat gets bloated every year with no real evidence as of why. The AI approach is the only right one to identify the hotspots first. I am also supervising application of the modern process mining algorithms in our company. You get to know stuff buried very deeply between countless regulations which costs lots of money with little return.


Private entities also usually have shareholders or capital providers that will do something about management if the company is mismanaged over time. At my job there were a lot of cuts during the last year, a ton of middle management consolidation. They also froze business travel for vast majority of company. Sure, relationship managers that meet with clients and drive revenue directly, yeah those need to travel but everyone else? It was just a waste and more of a perk for employees to go to NYC, London, etc.

With government that mechanism doesn't exist. If you don't use up all of the funding, next year they will most likely cut it, so there is always an incentive to continuously use it all and even ask for more. I mean i've literally experienced this when working for fed. govt years back. Huge amount of waste.
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Private entities also usually have shareholders or capital providers that will do something about management if the company is mismanaged over time. At my job there were a lot of cuts during the last year, a ton of middle management consolidation. They also froze business travel for vast majority of company. Sure, relationship managers that meet with clients and drive revenue directly, yeah those need to travel but everyone else? It was just a waste and more of a perk for employees to go to NYC, London, etc.

With government that mechanism doesn't exist. If you don't use up all of the funding, next year they will most likely cut it, so there is always an incentive to continuously use it all and even ask for more. I mean i've literally experienced this when working for fed. govt years back. Huge amount of waste.

You pretty much reworded what I said. To add, those bureaucrats are really creative in their "legal ways" of overspending to bypass regulations. You really need AI.

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Nov 23 2024 08:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 23 2024 02:55pm)
In Argentina most of the graft was overt and explicit, while in America its buried in incomprehensible bureaucracy. How do we delve into public works and figure out who is being paid to do nothing?
Argentina just had direct patronage and no-show jobs, people paid for nothing but organizing voters around elections for the socialists.
In the American pubic sector, how do you distinguish the actual output of a mid level manager, or assistant principal, or compliance officer? Yes there is some low hanging fruit like diversity officers, but its a tiny insignificant %.


This is why companies hire consultants.

That way the company doesn't have to get their hands dirty either.

I think Trump should do the same thing en masse.
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This is why companies hire consultants.

That way the company doesn't have to get their hands dirty either.

I think Trump should do the same thing en masse.


Consultants can be useful for low hanging fruit, but it's hard to make serious change unless you understand the ins and outs of process. That takes someone who understands the businesses KPIs and how the workflow operates. I would think regulations and the associated paperwork are were DOGE is going to find 99% of any value they create.
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JUST IN: Donald Trump is expected to kick transgender troops out of US military as early as January 20th according to a new report from The Times.

The move would remove about 15,000 transgender active service members.

“They would be medically discharged, which would determine that they were unfit to serve,” The Times reported.

“It would also lead to a ban on trans people joining the military and would come at a time when almost all branches of the American armed forces are failing to meet recruitment targets.”

During a recent podcast with Shawn Ryan, Pete Hegseth spoke out against wokeism in the military, blaming it for the recruitment drop off.


https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1860830888600248324?s=46
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https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1860830888600248324?s=46


This isn't even low hanging fruit, this is fruit that has long since fallen on the ground.
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Nov 26 2024 01:31pm
Declassified Pentagon F-35 Study Details Reliability, Security Woes for America’s Costliest Weapon
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/company-news/2024/11/21/declassified-pentagon-f-35-study-details-reliability-security-woes-for-americas-costliest-weapon/

Elon Musk Shoots Down Lockheed Martin, Other F-35 Defense Stocks
https://www.investors.com/news/elon-musk-shoots-down-lockheed-martin-other-f-35-defense-stocks/

Id be VERY careful if i was elon. You dont get to mess with the MICs share prices and live to tell the tale. F35 (hangar queens) was still the biggest scam ever created though.
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