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Quote (El1te @ Oct 16 2024 11:04pm)
One big piece of information you're leaving out between immigrants then vs. immigrants now


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You really can't figure this one out?
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You really can't figure this one out?


If you want to disagree with me you're going to have to present your position. That's how conversation works.
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 09:58pm)
That's what I said. It has always taken several generations to turn any influx of immigrants into productive members of society. America has done it every time. Why would this time be any different? I know it's hard, but you should make an effort to learn the lessons of history.


No. We are going to start only accepting people who have skills. Why would we invest in a group of people when we can have a pre made group of people ready to get to work. Im sorry, i do not wish to have anymore ppl who are unskilled laborers. We have enough rn.
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If you want to disagree with me you're going to have to present your position. That's how conversation works.


No that's fine, carry on
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No. We are going to start only accepting people who have skills. Why would we invest in a group of people when we can have a pre made group of people ready to get to work. Im sorry, i do not wish to have anymore ppl who are unskilled laborers. We have enough rn.


Obviously it is ideal if every immigrant is a microbiologist or surgeon. Unfortunately that is not how immigration works. You can entertain whatever fantasies you want, but that isn't how problems get solved.
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Obviously it is ideal if every immigrant is a microbiologist or surgeon. Unfortunately that is not how immigration works. You can entertain whatever fantasies you want, but that isn't how problems get solved.


We don't have a labor shortage and if and when we do, we can grease the wheels and allow a large influx of less than ideal applicants
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We don't have a labor shortage and if and when we do, we can grease the wheels and allow a large influx of less than ideal applicants


lol if you don't think there's a labor shortage you obviously haven't tried to hire laborers recently.
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 10:23pm)
lol if you don't think there's a labor shortage you obviously haven't tried to hire laborers recently.


Right now it's a buyer's market. Laborers get to decide where they work and under what terms and benefits. I don't see how you think that's bad. Most of our everyday consumables, which require a lot of cheap labor are overseas right now. Bring back american jobs, i will condescend to agree to allow unskilled migrants in at record levels, stop all trade with china, pivot all that industry small and large., back to us.
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Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 15 2024 12:54pm)
i think that instead of the government regulating a woman's body, boys should have vasectomies once they reach puberty and only have this procedure undone once they are married. what say you conservatives?


Men lie. lol! but if we did this, our birthrate would skyrocket!!

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 15 2024 09:57pm)
Abortion is ok for certain demographics. :ph34r:


I think this is what Margaret Sanger had in mind when she started PP. Look it up, left side. She HATED black people and put Planned Parenthood in cities to start a genocide on the black race. THAT sounds like NAZI... hmmm???



Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 15 2024 09:38pm)
https://rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

1 in 6. chances are someone you know or are related to has dealt with it

https://i.imgur.com/qHSORdi.png


What relevance does this have to this argument?

The real stat, I believe, is that less than 5% of all abortions are from cases of rape/incest. You can have those. What about the other 95%?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/ old link, but it was quick duck duck go search.

Libs say they are for the fam. They are for anything they want to get the votes. just saying.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 15 2024 08:58pm)
The term 'pro-choice' is utilized rather than 'pro-abortion' because it reflects the desire for people to have the freedom to choose what may be the best for their circumstances when pregnant as part of consultation with their own medical providers, family, and personal values. This includes the option for abortion, but it is only one option under a broad umbrella.

Additionally, a commonality between pro-life and pro-choice belief is that there is a desire to see the rate of abortion go down. There are differences, of course, in how people conceptualize actualizing upon that goal but the general goal is shared. The pro-choice mantra of "Safe, legal, and rare" embodies this truth and so describing oneself instead as "pro-abortion" wouldn't best convey what is actually felt, imo.


The term is used because when you have to think about abortion, it's gross. I challenge you to do it. Go through the processes that they offer, you will find that at some level, they are ALL heinous. They shred up babies with forceps and pull them out of the mom piece by piece.... seriously? If you can talk about it without talking about, you can disguise and hide it.

You don't have to support abortion to support inclusivity. You can be a human and it can bother you.. Find info. the babies FEEL some types of abortions. They cry, they squirm, they struggle, even when the doctor says they have given the baby enough sedative that they won't feel anything. You are not a monster, but abortion is a monster...

Even botched abortions, when the baby lives through it, they continue the procedure outside the womb. Documented. but when you say it, your told that your a conspiracy theorist.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! Your eyes are not lying... Don't let someone else tell you that they are....

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