Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 19 2024 09:47pm)

god does not exist

grow up

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 11:03pm)

I would say zero indication of a prime mover is evidence there isn't one.

Quote (El1te @ Sep 20 2024 12:32am)

The most rigourous widely accepted scientific theory of the origin of the universe is a prime mover theory (big bang)

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 20 2024 12:26am)

I would say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 11:58pm)

Apologies I mean divine prime mover

As we were referring to a god.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 19 2024 10:04pm)

I didn’t give you “my” definitions, I gave you “the” definitions. You gave me “your” definitions, which are incorrect.

You can misuse and misdefine words if that’s what you’d like to do. It makes you incorrect. You can’t redefine words at will. Intelligent conversation is impossible if you can’t even accept that words have prescribed meanings…

You can not be atheist and agnostic simultaneously. Atheists are fundamentally gnostic, again, by the well established definitions of those words.

I don’t know who Matt Dillahunty is, but if you know who he is then I suspect he is a youtube dimestore philosopher. I base this assumption on the fact that you can’t properly define the terms you’re apparently interested in talking about, and that you’ve related to him. If I’m wrong and you think he’s on the level of Thomas Huxley or Diderot lmk and I’ll check out his videos on twitter er wherever the fk you kids get your frail information.

Ofcourse that requires you to know who Diderot and TH Huxley are, which seems not to be the case.

Quote (MildSambal @ Sep 19 2024 10:07pm)

If a person born colorblind is told that the table in front of them is brown, what convincing evidence is there for them? He can’t “know” that it is brown because it’s beyond his capacity. He can still come to the conclusion that the table in front of him is brown based on deductive reasoning

The same thing is true for faith based reasoning

Quote (blahaj @ Sep 19 2024 11:04pm)

Religious people and atheists are absolutely not the same lol. Atheists don't follow faith and bluntly speaking blind hard stuck belief in something, sure maybe some of them do but the overwhelming majority of people who don't believe in religion aren't some head in the sand idiots lol. Only someone who is religious would see things that way

Quote (El1te @ Sep 20 2024 01:08am)

There's not really a distinction

The existence of a prime mover/supreme creator is simply logically true, Aristotle recognized this, and it is recognized in the discipline of physics. Any action requires an antecedent action - time had to begin at one point. Maybe this prime mover/supreme creator caused the big bang/created the universe then F'd off, but it logically had to exist.

Maybe this prime mover was a multidimensional species or something but whatever it is it logically had to exist

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 20 2024 02:49am)

As an atheist. I disagree. We believe in one less untrue thing. We believe in what has compelling evidence which is backed by science.

We are so far apart it's not worth comparing. You act as If the scale is cyclical. It's not. It's linear.