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Feb 12 2024 09:47pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 12 2024 07:45pm)
My oh my, how did we get along for millennia without someone showing us a piece of paper telling you why their point of view is valid and no one else’s is.

Thank God some are endowed with enough common sense to realize a concrete structure moving like that is precarious and they don’t have to wait for a structural engineer to come tell them to stay away, they just stay away…Almost as if non experts can also pick up on the observable world and form right opinions based on other reference points.


Y'all really want to die on this hill don't you?

Is there something seemingly off with that bridge? Yes.
Is there something seemingly off with the transgender experience? Yes.

Does that mean it therefore is "mental illness"? No.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 12 2024 10:36pm)
And given that I'm not a civil engineer, I wouldn't make specific, categorical claims about the matter. Y'all mistake deviance for mental illness.


look i'm sure, scientifically, medically w/e i could be wrong in looking at this person and thinking they're crazy but i'm pretty sure this is not a fringe view

people can tell when something is off


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You're being a complete clown. The individual had a record of arrests as in repeated offences and a mental health record including mental health emergency.

Clearly you can have degrees of things that would and would not impact your ability. Perhaps minor drug possession does not but being a repeat offender and having a history of significant mental health issues does.

It's not rocket science and you sound like an absolute idiot.


A record of "arrests as in repeated offenses" does not rise to the level of stripping someone's constitutional rights unless they are felonies, just like how a mental health emergency isn't grounds to imprison them.
Tell me, how many millions of people in America who have a history of mental health issues didn't commit a terrorist attack yesterday? Should they all be treated as second class citizens who don't have the same rights and privileges as the rest of us, because of the potential they might commit crime?
What's a better predictor of whether someone will commit violent crime during their lifetime, a mental health issue, or the color of their skin? Hope those rates aren't too comparable

And yes in addition to a background in civil engineering and criminology I also know some rocket science
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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 12 2024 07:48pm)
look i'm sure, scientifically, medically w/e i could be wrong in looking at this person and thinking they're crazy but i'm pretty sure this is not a fringe view

people can tell when something is off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d_nycoiLwo


"People can tell when something is off" is not how we determine whether something is a "mental illness". I am genuinely confused why y'all want to die on this hill so badly.
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Feb 12 2024 09:52pm
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Forgive me for not taking the time to state the obvious, I suppose?



Not at all. I'm pointing out that people are ignorant about mental health, in a literal sense. I believe the only other PaRD user aside from myself who has any level of education, training, and license in the matter is Skinned.


My sister runs a mental health clinic for Trinity Services in Illinois...

https://www.trinityservices.org/

Once a week I go there for a 12 hour shift and I get to talk to people 1 on 1 who were just diagnosed/just got through addiction/stayed in a psychiatric facility/etc.

I see it firsthand that "transgender people" are "angry" and much harder to handle/talk with then anyone else.

We had to call the police because a "trans woman" i.e a man that identifies as a woman was being called a "faggot" repeatedly by a GAY man getting over a coke/alcohol addiction. That trans person threatened to kill everyone and ran out of the half-way house and because we didn't know where they were going or what they'd do we were forced to call the authorities.

These are people who don't have the resources to get help. Literally proving exactly what you are saying.

Society promoting this LGTBQ+ stuff has made my sisters job much worse and dangerous.

A trans man i.e a woman who identifies as a man "KICKED" my pregnant sister in the stomach because he/she was jealous my sister was "happy". My sister could've pressed charges but she didn't.

Go volunteer at a mental health facility/outreach group/social services program and be witness to what I've witnessed.

This program my sister runs hasn't even been running 6 months and these are the things that have happened...

edit: Our entire family was telling my sister to press charges because my god daughter could've been stillborn because of a trans person who lost their mind and decided to drop kick an unborn baby.

Yea so I'm a little biased................................... :fume:

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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 12 2024 08:50pm)
A record of "arrests as in repeated offenses" does not rise to the level of stripping someone's constitutional rights unless they are felonies, just like how a mental health emergency isn't grounds to imprison them.
Tell me, how many millions of people in America who have a history of mental health issues didn't commit a terrorist attack yesterday? Should they all be treated as second class citizens who don't have the same rights and privileges as the rest of us, because of the potential they might commit crime?
What's a better predictor of whether someone will commit violent crime during their lifetime, a mental health issue, or the color of their skin? Hope those rates aren't too comparable

And yes in addition to a background in civil engineering and criminology I also know some rocket science


Yes they should not be able to purchase fire arms and yes repeated offences should impact your ability to own a firearm no different than repeated road offences results in loss of a licence.

Again this isn't hard and you sound like a total moron.
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"People can tell when something is off" is not how we determine whether something is a "mental illness". I am genuinely confused why y'all want to die on this hill so badly.


would you trust the judgement of any expert that tells you the person in the video is of sound mind? or that that bridge is perfectly fine to cross

also by "y'all" do you mean normal people?

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look i'm sure, scientifically, medically w/e i could be wrong in looking at this person and thinking they're crazy but i'm pretty sure this is not a fringe view

people can tell when something is off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d_nycoiLwo




damn, what a good looking stud
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Feb 12 2024 09:56pm
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My sister runs a mental health clinic for Trinity Services in Illinois...

https://www.trinityservices.org/


This is a lovely story. Thank you for the anecdotes.

Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 12 2024 07:53pm)
would you trust the judgement of any expert that tells you the person in the video is of sound mind?

also by "y'all" do you mean normal people?


If by "mental illness" you just mean that it's something that you personally dislike, find weird, or think is crazy, then by all means continue to do so. Clearly nothing will stop you.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 12 2024 07:50pm)
"People can tell when something is off" is not how we determine whether something is a "mental illness". I am genuinely confused why y'all want to die on this hill so badly.


probably not an end-all diagnosis, but it can be a factor for sure. we don't have spidey senses for no reason
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