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Dec 22 2023 05:47pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 05:46pm)
Cases where one sex looks like the other sex are quite rare and most of the times they are pathological. Not the same thing.

Most of the time, people can tell it's a dude, I don't know why you don't get this.


So if HR calls you in, how do you prove to them you aren't making a mistake? What if it's just a woman who looks a lot like a man? Those exist all over and are in no way pathological.
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Dec 22 2023 05:47pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 03:42pm)
Why is it abuse to call a man "sir"?


you said being called an asshole was abuse, I didnt use that word until you did. I think its rude above anything else

if you make a mistake the first time due to someone's appearance, that is forgivable. if they correct you and you still purposefully misuse their pronoun, that makes you a rude asshole

if one of your friends wanted to be called by their middle name instead of their first name, would you purposefully use their first name to piss them off? I'd hope not. I dont understand why conservatives are hung up on the gender problem...oh wait, i do, its because they want everyone to conform to their ancient 'moral' religious rules


Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 03:42pm)
Lmao, first you say I am "whining", and now you call my post "hypocrisy". I can see that this exchange is clearly getting to you. Relax. The world will not end if someone on a remote corner of the internet does not want to call a trans woman ma'am.


you are being a whiney hypocrite ! are you upset that Im pointing it out? first you lied about the US passing pronoun laws, then you are saying leftwingers want conformity (another lie), now youre trying to pivot by implying that Im mad,lol.
im not mad at all, youre just wrong
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Dec 22 2023 05:49pm
Normal people in the real world do not get upset if you "misgender" them. People make gaffes. People say sir or ma'am or whatever by accident alot - and guess what, people don't get mad. Some people seriously need to touch grass and get off the internet
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Dec 22 2023 05:51pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 03:47pm)
So if HR calls you in, how do you prove to them you aren't making a mistake? What if it's just a woman who looks a lot like a man? Those exist all over and are in no way pathological.


How about this: I will make a compromise. I will refer to him/her as they/them. There. Will your imaginary HR stop harassing me?

The reason we would even be having this discussion right now is all the Left's fault. Normally, when someone looks like a man, they are a man. But now there are "women" who look like a man. Peak level clown world.
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Dec 22 2023 05:54pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 05:51pm)
How about this: I will make a compromise. I will refer to him/her as they/them. There. Will your imaginary HR stop harassing me?

The reason we would even be having this discussion right now is all the Left's fault. Normally, when someone looks like a man, they are a man. But now there are "women" who look like a man. Peak level clown world.


You didn't answer the question. How do you know you aren't making a mistake? This has nothing to do with "the left". Androgynous people have always existed.

Is this a man or woman... without looking up the image.

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Dec 22 2023 05:55pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 22 2023 03:47pm)
you said being called an asshole was abuse, I didnt use that word until you did. I think its rude above anything else

if you make a mistake the first time due to someone's appearance, that is forgivable. if they correct you and you still purposefully misuse their pronoun, that makes you a rude asshole

if one of your friends wanted to be called by their middle name instead of their first name, would you purposefully use their first name to piss them off? I'd hope not. I dont understand why conservatives are hung up on the gender problem...oh wait, i do, its because they want everyone to conform to their ancient 'moral' religious rules


Nah, I don't care if men want to put on lipstick and wear a dress. But I do resent being forced to call them by their preferred pronouns or face consequences. I don't understand why you can't see that. People like me are being coerced into behaving in a certain way.

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you are being a whiney hypocrite ! are you upset that Im pointing it out? first you lied about the US passing pronoun laws, then you are saying leftwingers want conformity (another lie), now youre trying to pivot by implying that Im mad,lol.
im not mad at all, youre just wrong


You need to cool down.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Dec 22 2023 05:57pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 03:54pm)
You didn't answer the question. How do you know you aren't making a mistake? This has nothing to do with "the left". Androgynous people have always existed.

Is this a man or woman... without looking up the image.

https://i.imgur.com/TuGOGzm.png


Probably a woman. Thin eyebrows, full plump lips. But just to be sure I'd check to see if they have boobs.
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Dec 22 2023 05:57pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 05:56pm)
Probably a woman. Thin eyebrows, full plump lips. But just to be sure I'd check to see if they have boobs.


That's Macaulay Culkin
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Dec 22 2023 05:57pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 03:55pm)
Nah, I don't care if men want to put on lipstick and wear a dress. But I do resent being forced to call them by their preferred pronouns or face consequences. I don't understand why you can't see that. People like me are being coerced into behaving in a certain way.



You need to cool down.


no one is forcing you, thats what youre missing. there is no law
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Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 22 2023 06:36pm)
if you mistakenly call someone the wrong pronoun, that is different. if someone corrects you and you still refuse to do what they are asking, you are an asshole. if you think being called an asshole is "abuse", then clearly you can understand why someone being called the wrong thing on purpose is offensive...YOU actually would call it abuse

youre whining about conformity, right wingers demand ultimate conformity.


like i said before, from my point of view, the left demands the conformity much than the right does these days. maybe im wrong, but thats how i see it.

for daily use of pronouns, if corrected because i made the wrong assumption, i will use whatever pronoun they ask me to. however, i am not doing so because i believe it to be true, i do it because i am simply being polite. im not an asshole in real life like i am on jsp, haha.

its weird, alot of the times someone like myself shares this point of view, people often assume i am completely ok with people being oppressed. and no, im not. no one should have to suffer that, however i do have the right to say that i do not want to play along with your make believe.

for something like annorexia, we do not tell the patient that the treatment is to continue to starve yourself, so forgive me if i think that encouraging transition is odd.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Dec 22 2023 06:17pm
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