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#91
Nov 15 2023 12:24pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 15 2023 01:21pm)
they have no natural predators because they're massive powerful wild hogs that will eat absolutely anything and everything with a ravenous unsatiable hunger. There are no tigers around North America but even if there were even they would think twice before going for a massive wild hog. Cougars won't mess with them.


before humans, other large animals were much more numerous, and kept the hogs in balance. humans being a super-power drastically decreased their numbers and pushed large predators in much smaller places to live... this is why the hogs are running rampant.

this idea that wild hogs just want to see the world burn like the joker is nuts. they are just trying to survive. theyre hungry, not hellbent on destruction... haha.

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Nov 15 2023 12:25pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 15 2023 10:22am)
culture did not come from religion, please do yourself a favor and get an education


yes it does/did/always has

there does not exist a single culture which is not based in religion
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#93
Nov 15 2023 12:25pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 15 2023 01:22pm)
culture did not come from religion, please do yourself a favor and get an education


i dont know, thats debatable imo. how are they not intertwined given that religion has been around for a long time?

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Nov 15 2023 12:28pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 15 2023 10:24am)
before humans, other large animals were much more numerous, and kept the hogs in balance. humans being a super-power and pushed large animals in much smaller places to live... this is why the hogs are running rampant.

this idea that wild hogs just want to see the world burn the the joker is nuts. they are just trying to survive. theyre hungry, not hellbent on destruction... haha.


yes, humans can dominate environments (pushing out other predators, upset the ecosystem etc.), but my main point is that other animals do this too (such as wild hogs) so blame for environmental destruction cannot be solely attributed to humans, other species do it too and have done it for far longer than humans have existed

its true that they're just trying to survive but so are humans. Wild hogs need to eat alot to survive and thrive and that causes them to dominate & destroy ecosystems before moving on to the next one

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#95
Nov 15 2023 12:29pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 15 2023 10:25am)
yes it does/did/always has

there does not exist a single culture which is not based in religion


this is the most baseless and untrue thing youve ever posted
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Nov 15 2023 12:30pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 15 2023 10:25am)
i dont know, thats debatable imo. how are they not intertwined given that religion has been around for a long time?


religion really hasnt been around that long compared to humans

https://www.palomar.edu/anthro/culture/culture_1.htm
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Nov 15 2023 12:30pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 15 2023 10:29am)
this is the most baseless and untrue thing youve ever posted


please provide an example of a human culture that isn't based in religion

every single one is

the first human cultures/indigenous cultures are all based in some form of paganism/shamanism/"folk religion"
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#98
Nov 15 2023 12:33pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 15 2023 12:17pm)
Yea we all hope that'd be the case but ask yourself this.

When the military tests nuclear weapons or carries out a psychological experiment or a myriad of other "morally questionable" acts in the name of "Science" NONE of us get a say in any of it as a civilian because the average "human being" is against detonating nuclear warheads in the ocean and killing wildlife on a mass scale. So they can blow up a hole in the magnetosphere with no consequence what else have they been "testing" behind the scenes.

If you were asked these questions you'd probably say "no thank you"

1) Open air biological experiment above your town

2) Detonation of a nuclear warhead above your state/country

3) Detonate nuclear warhead in the ocean iviscoarating life incalculable.

No civilian gets to vote on this our governments simply do this without accountability and resposibilty because they can in the name of "Science".


In recent years military prowess and science have been synonymous but I would rather sever this association

In my ideal land

I am aware it’s unrealistic
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#99
Nov 15 2023 12:39pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 15 2023 10:30am)
please provide an example of a human culture that isn't based in religion

every single one is

the first human cultures/indigenous cultures are all based in some form of paganism/shamanism/"folk religion"


I think you are conflating religion with spirituality or belief in myths. religion would not exist without people coming together and having a shared language to discuss ideas/beliefs/etc, you cant have a religion before a culture
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#100
Nov 15 2023 12:46pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 15 2023 01:28pm)
yes, humans can dominate environments (pushing out other predators, upset the ecosystem etc.), but my main point is that other animals do this too (such as wild hogs) so blame for environmental destruction cannot be solely attributed to humans, other species do it too and have done it for far longer than humans have existed

its true that they're just trying to survive but so are humans. Wild hogs need to eat alot to survive and thrive and that causes them to dominate & destroy ecosystems before moving on to the next one


i may eat my words here lol, but i think invasive species only exist because of how humans have drastically changed earth's environment. most (all?) of these cases are straight up caused by humans moving a particular species from one side of the planet to another... by accident or on purpose. by definition invasive means, where it doesnt belong. so if wild hogs always called north america home, then that is where they belong and their natural predators and their own eating habits would regulate their numbers which is how nature keeps a balance. atleast thats how i see it...

for the hogs though, the balance is all out of wack since very few or no predators remain.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Nov 15 2023 01:05pm
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