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Oct 7 2023 03:38pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 7 2023 11:36pm)
You are absolutely right, there is a couple of usual suspects on Pard who thinks they know everything. You will know who they are soon.


Goomshit, im sorry Goomshil* is familiar. i remember him from the last Gaza parade.

he is always here to mention us we are lesser creatures.

good night, for the next couple of years.
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Oct 7 2023 03:44pm
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Goomshit, im sorry Goomshil* is familiar. i remember him from the last Gaza parade.

he is always here to mention us we are lesser creatures.

good night, for the next couple of years.


According to the JIDF I'm a jewhating terrorist sympathizer and according to the camel jockeys and their sin eaters in the west I'm a modern day concentration camp lieutenant
Clearly I must be doing something right. Though I do miss having the active IDF posters on PARD like we used to years ago, they were fun
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Quote (darksoho @ 8 Oct 2023 05:38)
Goomshit, im sorry Goomshil* is familiar. i remember him from the last Gaza parade.

he is always here to mention us we are lesser creatures.

good night, for the next couple of years.


I would say he is more on the neutral side. Anyways, you serve in IDF?
Our military was build by the IDF.
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Oct 7 2023 04:02pm
So another question- what is the proximate cause for this conflict?
There's the null hypothesis, that Hamas was just waiting for an opportunity and to assemble an invasion when they were ready, trying to organize under Mossad's raider and pulled the trigger just because they could
but then there's the more macro oriented questions, like what if Hamas leadership rushed this plan out because they felt threatened by Israel normalizing relations with the KSA and all the other non-Iranian powers?
this flareup is going to have the immediate impact of souring relations between Israel and the Saudis right as Biden was starting to reengage on what Trump started after 3 long years of being asleep. Remember, this was the conversation just a week ago;
https://www.ibanet.org/article/D2659617-4CAB-4FE9-8B60-A971485EC3D6

Western media has been largely silent on it, but notably Arab media has been enflamed in the past few weeks on the eve of this deal, so there's a good chance this is the true spark
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Oct 7 2023 04:08pm
The situation is tragic and complicated. Common knowledge by now that Palestinian conditions are atrocious and decades of civil rights crimes have been committed without repercussions

However

Hamas also taking credit for this civilian attack and continued war mongering. A matter of before they are wiped away from the planet now, and world will be better off. Hopefully neighboring countries can be kind and step up to house the millions of Palestinians who’s only fault is being born in the wrong spot of the world.

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Quote (darksoho @ 7 Oct 2023 22:45)
exactly. Israel supplies the "Palestinians" ( i.e refugees from Jordan, Egypt and so on that no sane Arab country wants to deal with ) fuel, water and electricity while their only wish is to cleanse the land from any soul that lives in Israel.

the worst mistake in the history of Israel was not to make Gaza a flat desert before it was infested with radical Jihadists. no worries, this time it will be heavier than last time. it will take a decade or so to build. time will tell.

tell me good sir - what would Russia, America or any logical country would do after a full scale near-border invasion spraying 70 and 80 years old on the streets ? a tactical nuke ? napalm ? a full scale airstrike without a time limit, just shooting banks of good old expired ammo till Gaza is a bare land with zero buildings ?

do you see anything similar in Israel retaliation to the "Palestinian" people ?

have you ever been to Syria ? have you ever saw a chemical airstrike ? a real genocide ? bodies over one another till it block the sun in the morning ( im no poet, iv seen shit.. yep )

are you familiar with how Arabs deal with Arabs inside Israel ? ( such as dignity between families etc ) ?

have you ever seen a Jew holding a kid as a little shield before exploding himself to space ? i saw one in my service before he went poof, only he was actually an Islamist.

let me make one thing clear - we ( Israelis ) are the *least* the "Palestinians" should worry about.

the whole world needs to worry about Radical Islam.

if you feel we are the problem.. that's really not an issue for me, since iv been and seen everything you didn't.


you have a strange definition of the word "supplying":

https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-palestinians-un-idUSL8N2151O7
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2016-06-22/ty-article/.premium/israel-unable-to-tell-truth-about-stealing-water-from-palestinians/0000017f-e068-d75c-a7ff-fced125f0000

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Oct 7 2023 04:15pm
Quote (Bazi @ 8 Oct 2023 06:08)
The situation is tragic and complicated. Common knowledge by now that Palestinian conditions are atrocious and decades of civil rights crimes have been committed without repercussions

However

Hamas also taking credit for this civilian attack and continued war mongering. A matter of before they are wiped away from the planet now, and world will be better off. Hopefully neighboring countries can be kind and step up to house the millions of Palestinians who’s only fault is being born in the wrong spot of the world.


They will be going to EU.
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Oct 7 2023 04:19pm
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They will be going to EU.


yeah, europe will suffer further
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Oct 7 2023 04:22pm
https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/blogs/israelunderattack?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

google translate for english speaking audience
current estimate is at least 300 killed, 100 abducted, number expected to continue rising
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Oct 7 2023 04:40pm
looks like the half naked female corpse paraded through the streets on a pick up truck was in fact a german citizen

she was there to visit a festival..... RIP

what will germany do about it? send more money to terrorists and let leftie scumbags spread hamas propaganda with impunity

my god, i have a strong stomach, but its just sickening

Quote (darksoho @ Oct 7 2023 11:32pm)
i know nothing about Canada. i know nothing about U.S.A ( i do have family in Seattle ). i know nothing about most countries in the world.

i served for more than 5 years it does not matter what i did, what matters is -
iv been to places ( Syria, Lebanon, Gaza ) and more places i will not mention.
so i know a LOT about stuff that iv been and seen.
also been 3 years in Thailand.
and that's about it.

i don't take any western classic or w\e u just said. im a regular Israeli guy that can tell you the reality* of Israel\Gaza and those issues that's about it.
my point of view is not about Israel is the holy land and Jews are entitled to everything, fuck all that.

what always surprises me - is how much information people "know" about the middle east and\or Palestinians-Israel stuff, but most of them never been here. never saw the bank or Israel
so how the hell they can even understand it ? they can't. they only think they can.. like linking me to some shit about violating international laws.
the minute Gaza bend over to be an Iranian proxy, it's a violation for every Israeli out here.


good take mate, always good to guys with some actual experience
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