Fridman isn't alone in this extreme over representation in media, I only mentioned him because he's a very popular name. You can find extreme over representation in other popular names like Joe Rogan and others in media and politics.

I think extreme levels of nepotism is practiced and promoted in Judaism and the in-group preference makes Jewish people in positions of power and influence become extremely over represented. This over representation cannot be explained alone with "studied and taught from a young age" unless you believe Jews so incredibly more intelligent than other races in America on average that their more than 30x over representation is reasonable(when it comes to political-related intelligence specifically). Even if this was the case (it's not), is it acceptable to have a 2% minority represent 70% of popular political discussion in popular media?

Think of how this would work in different countries, for an example China. If we pretend Jewish people are greatly more intelligent than the average American, so much more that they should be 30x over represented in politics, should they then lead political thought in China? Would China accept it? The obvious answer is no.

Your main reasoning seems to be that America feels bad about the holocaust and want to use Jewish influence in politics to continue America's interventionism and the continuous war economy overseas. Is this a good thing and how far is it from the grand conspiracies people often talk about anyway of Jewish global control?

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 6 2023 03:03pm

Wikipedia, really ? not bitchute or similar downie website ?

nasty ol wiki snails REEEE

Sorry I misunderstood about the Lex Friedman bit, I don't really have an answer to why there is a higher representation of Jewish people actually in media, my arguments are more so why they are over represented in positions of authority/success within media/government/academia

The Nepotism exists I'm sure but that is probably the same for any group especially a extremely religious minority, it isn't ideal of course but not exactly shocking. Where exactly are you getting these stats? I find it hard to believe they represent 70% of popular political discussion, shows like Joe Rogan and Lex Friedman aren't even entirely political so what does that really mean?

I didn't say they are just smarter I said Judaism "prepares children very well for a life of academic pursuit which is also heavily promoted in Jewish culture" that is entirely different.

It isn't a matter of feeling bad, it is part of the justification for an interventionist foreign policy, every war the US fights is always against some new caricature of Hitler because he is the ultimate boogeyman of western civilization. Were that not the case it would be harder to justify bombing poor countries into the stone age and stealing their resources. The Jewish people in positions of authority aren't in those positions because it is useful to the US government, it is just a result of the combination of factors I mentioned before IMO.

As to whether I think the Jewish influence is good or bad, I think it comes down to whether you think Jewish people act in the interests of Jews over other groups of people, were they all devoutly religious I would think it could be a problem but since many aren't I doubt they are acting together for some greater purpose. Also seems to me their influence is decreasing, they seem much less protected from criticism than they were a decade ago. I don't think they ever had "control" just more influence than other countries under US protection/control which is why I don't find the global control stuff very convincing.

Nepotism is not only well practiced in Judaism, but highly supported by the culture in America as there's no push back against it while other ethnicities (broadly white people) would be shamed, investigated, or sued for hiring only whites.
The data on Fridman's guests can be found here. It surely is hard to believe, but it is true.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si4a4pkIXCvIGZdAcjW393WKa2EAE2_ONnWzN4yjh18/edit#gid=0



Same deal, do you believe this preparation is truly the reason for over 30x representation in political discussion and media influence? I think that's quite the far-fetched case that it's purely meritocratic outcome. And even if it were the case, I don't think it's representative of the people of the united states to have a small minority ethnicity opinion rule political discourse.

Ethnicity ties people together, even if some arbitrary amount aren't devotedly Jewish. And again, you mentioned so that same subset is what we are discussing here, it would be illogical to have it both ways and assume that they are strongly affected by their culture and religion but are at the same time secular and acting not for their culture.

You admitted your belief that the USA uses Jewish influence, portraying them as an eternal victim, and imagery of Nazism/Hitler to advocate for its military interventionism and advocacy of Israel and defeat of its enemies. Do you not see it as at the very least questionable to use a minority figure and portray them as an eternal victim, while this minority figure holds extreme over representation in political media and therefore control over the narrative advocating for their own interests? Influence of the media = control of ideas -- to doubt this is to your peril, it's not some spooky conspiracy theory.

I think people act in their own self-interest, and it's no different for groups of people -- I think it's significantly stronger for groups of ethnically and religiously aligned people who are portrayed as eternal victims while simultaneously considered 'god's chosen people' and having ethnic tests on citizenship for their protected country(would be crazy to see the England have the same standards that your mother must be proven to be Anglo).

I think the same nepotism would be supported for any other non white group (except Asians maybe?) though Jewish people probably have an advantage for being "in the system" far longer. Not saying this is good just that I don't think it is unique to them.

I browsed through this quick so please let me know if I'm misrepresenting anything but here are my issues with it, first it seems like the person who made it just Googled the guests or guessed based on the name or appearance of the person. There probably isn't a better way to actually do this without getting in contact with them all but it seems a bit amateur for something we are extrapolating onto all political media. Second would be I don't think all of his episodes are inherently political, do you know if the creator of the chart accounts for that? If there was info like that somewhere i missed it sorry. Third I think Lex is jewish himself so for this particular example I would have to mention that he might have some family contacts and such that would lead to the numbers being skewed a bit as well.

Edit- checked that video, he did address my second point (I'm assuming vid guy is chart guy as well) but he mentioned for Rogan it was only 42% which while still high isn't nearly as extreme as 70%


I honestly don't know, I think it definitely plays a role but I couldn't say how much that could or should affect these type of stats. If you look at something like the NBA though, black athletes make up something around 70% of the players, so while it doesn't line up exactly it isn't that strange for a specific field to be dominated in that way.

Sure I wouldn't argue it doesn't create some connection but I don't think it is the same as a religious connection because divine law generally comes before the laws of man which is where things get dicey in my opinion. In terms of secular vs practicing jews I don't think it is illogical because while the secular jews may no longer follow the religion they could have been raised that way and abandoned the faith, I think the beneficial aspects are in the learning not specifically in following the faith.

oh I certainly don't see it as a good thing, I have a lot of moral issues with most of that stuff, but the Jewish part of it just doesn't seem very important to me, they seem more like a tool than the one wielding it.

I agree just not so much if they are secular, even with the ethnic connection, I've seen some jews complain about some of these issues as well but I think a problem with these sorts of things is not many people want to complain about things that benefit them.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Oct 6 2023 06:11pm

To the bold, all people are confirmed via their biography on wikipedia or self-admittance of the person and all of that information is detailed in the google document -- anyone who is unverified is considered white 100% of the time leading to many potentially missed cases so the number is at minimum and the real number likely above the count.

Yes, he charts for the type of podcast and qualifies each podcast based off its topic. Fridman being Jewish having a lot of Jewish representation on his show is noted, but I don't think this goes against the argument of over-representation in media.

While the NBA being dominated racially is true, I think it's an entirely different conversation which we can go into if you want.

Could and may be secular is one thing, but I think it begins to miss the point. I think what's important here is extreme over representation of an ethnicity not precisely how religious these individuals are. We could assume they are 100% all non religious and nothing would change in this case of extreme over representation by an ethnic minority in media. At that point we are already accepting the premise that they are extremely over-represented, which I think the best focus is questioning the how rather than speculating on the purpose although many questions can arise from such a particular instance of extreme over representation.



I'm not sure how you can come to this conclusion when media controls opinion, and 70% of political opinion in this case any many others (%s varying, but it is almost always an extreme over representation) comes from one tiny minority. It doesn't seem logically consistent to think the group expressing the ideas is simply the tool and not the one creating the ideas unless we assume that this group both dominates the discussion and is puppeted by another group, which is definitely going deep into conspiracy territory and far beyond the purposes of determining the fact of over-representation in media.

There are certainly anti-zionist Jews, but again I don't think that's particularly important unless we are trying to really hone in on the purpose of the over-representation and motivations.

Native Americans are a slightly higher % of the population when compared to Jewish people, Native Americans at 2.6% with Jewish being at 2.2% -- would you find it something to question if 70% of political media conversation was dominated by Native American voices? Without even speculating on the motivation, the purpose, etc, wouldn't it be worthy of questioning regardless of their religious belief?


42% is still a 20x over-representation and in rogan's case it was not filtered for political guests (which is easy to argue are far more influential to people's thoughts than an MMA guest or hunter/outdoors-man that Joe commonly has)

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 6 2023 07:06pm

Sorry I forgot to correct, he mentions about how he confirmed this in the video you sent. If I'm not mistaken this is only the case for the Friedman podcast ATM? I know he did Joe Rogan as well but I don't think that one is documented the same way, not trying to nit pick but I think this is particularly important because a lot of our conversation is based around these stats.

We don't need to unless you think it is important I just wanted to highlight another example of a specific field being dominated by a particular race (numbers probably lower if we take into account all professional sports ofc) i think there may be other cases as well but I would have to double check. I think the main issue would be that political content has more impact than sports or many other things right? I don't disagree with that idea so we probably don't need to delve too deep into this particular topic.

I just think it matters for the reasons I mentioned about religion and divine law etc. If all Jewish people were devoutly religious this would hold more merit for me. It sounds like our main disagreement is about the stats on representation. We could focus more on this if we come to an agreement on those, if that sounds fair?


I don't disagree with your thinking on this, but for it to be true we have to agree on the stats which we don't. As I said I'm not trying to nitpick but if you are going to say 70% of all political media is represented by ethnic jews I think it needs a higher bar of evidence than one guy studying two podcasts, even if those podcasts are extremely popular and influential. I don't think that is unfair, I realize it is a controversial topic so not many people would be willing to do that type of research but for me personally it doesn't convince me 70% of all political media is like this.

Fair, just mentioning it as some evidence that that they arent all aligned politically

it would certainly be strange to me but they are a different group with a different history. I see your point with this but it just gets messy trying to swap groups this way, it is more complicated than just numbers IMO. Not trying to dodge, we could dig down on this if you think I am just dont think it'll be productive.

I would say of the two podcasts that JRE is probably more popular and widely watched (i didn't check this just guessing) so it is probably a better example to study, unfortunately I don't think he documented this one the same way so it makes it a bit hard to view the stats as irrefutable.

But even if this guy has done a perfect job, I don't think we can just assume all media is the same based on his work alone. I realize this may be a subjective thing in some ways, but that is how it works in my brain, I may be stupid though

So you want cliffnotes for what took me 2 decades to put together?
Thats a tough order and ever tougher doing so off the top of my head.
Doing my best though.