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Sep 27 2023 08:50am
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Liberal Islamophobia targeting Muslim educators. What a time to be alive. And as usual they go after her livelihood trying to revoke her engineering license for her opinions on gender ideology.
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Liberal Islamophobia targeting Muslim educators. What a time to be alive. And as usual they go after her livelihood trying to revoke her engineering license for her opinions on gender ideology.


liberals stuffed racoons and squirrels in a barrel then act surprised when the barrel is splattered in blood.
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I am not going to comment on my views about gender /trans etc cuz I really don’t have enough knowledge to

However

I think the degree of use of antidepressants/anti anxiety meds is off the charts. I can’t speak for Canada, but It’s estimated that 20% of American children are on some type of medication. It’s a culmination of failures of our education and healthcare systems. I don’t do peds but many pediatricians also hate this statistic. Why on earth do insurance companies not cover behaviors or cognitive therapy unless they are on an SSRI or have failed one? This is common practice unless the dr wants to spend an hour arguing on the phone with an insurance company. The why is simple, it’s because ssris are cheap and therapy is expensive

Being a kid can be tough. Being a teenager can be tough. We have all been there and had our core memories developed through good and bad experiences. It is important to recognize this development requirement and not overly medicate it away.

I say overly Medicate because adolescent depression is certainly a thing and can be pathologic inhibiting what would be considered normal development.

However it, like adhd, is being overly diagnosed and overly medicated. It isn’t 20% of all children

Having 2 daughters set to start school in a few years, I’m not looking forward to some of the stories and shit that’s gonna come lol. Pendulums swing but this swinging too hard

This post was edited by Bazi on Oct 17 2023 10:45am
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Liberal Islamophobia targeting Muslim educators. What a time to be alive. And as usual they go after her livelihood trying to revoke her engineering license for her opinions on gender ideology.


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Oct 17 2023 10:56am
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I am not going to comment on my views about gender /trans etc cuz I really don’t have enough knowledge to

However

I think the degree of use of antidepressants/anti anxiety meds is off the charts. I can’t speak for Canada, but It’s estimated that 20% of American children are on some type of medication. It’s a culmination of failures of our education and healthcare systems. I don’t do peds but many pediatricians also hate this statistic. Why on earth do insurance companies not cover behaviors or cognitive therapy unless they are on an SSRI or have failed one? This is common practice unless the dr wants to spend an hour arguing on the phone with an insurance company. The why is simple, it’s because ssris are cheap and therapy is expensive

Being a kid can be tough. Being a teenager can be tough. We have all been there and had our core memories developed through good and bad experiences. It is important to recognize this development requirement and not overly medicate it away.

I say overly Medicate because adolescent depression is certainly a thing and can be pathologic inhibiting what would be considered normal development.

However it, like adhd, is being overly diagnosed and overly medicated. It isn’t 20% of all children

Having 2 daughters set to start school in a few years, I’m not looking forward to some of the stories and shit that’s gonna come lol. Pendulums swing but this swinging too hard


i was never a covid denier, but it was fun to see people openly attack big pharma. pharma and insurance companies are up to some exceedingly evil things.

i have a relative that's a pharmacist and some of the horror stories he tells me.... he has to advocate so hard for some patients just to clear red tape.
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Oct 17 2023 11:00am
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 17 2023 12:43pm)
I am not going to comment on my views about gender /trans etc cuz I really don’t have enough knowledge to

However

I think the degree of use of antidepressants/anti anxiety meds is off the charts. I can’t speak for Canada, but It’s estimated that 20% of American children are on some type of medication. It’s a culmination of failures of our education and healthcare systems. I don’t do peds but many pediatricians also hate this statistic. Why on earth do insurance companies not cover behaviors or cognitive therapy unless they are on an SSRI or have failed one? This is common practice unless the dr wants to spend an hour arguing on the phone with an insurance company. The why is simple, it’s because ssris are cheap and therapy is expensive

Being a kid can be tough. Being a teenager can be tough. We have all been there and had our core memories developed through good and bad experiences. It is important to recognize this development requirement and not overly medicate it away.

I say overly Medicate because adolescent depression is certainly a thing and can be pathologic inhibiting what would be considered normal development.

However it, like adhd, is being overly diagnosed and overly medicated. It isn’t 20% of all children

Having 2 daughters set to start school in a few years, I’m not looking forward to some of the stories and shit that’s gonna come lol. Pendulums swing but this swinging too hard


Kids today have it infinitely tougher compared to the average kid in the 80s, 90s even early 2000s and I honestly feel bad. Back then we were allowed to be kids and progress naturally through life without being psychoanalyzed and over prescribed. I remember being a dweeby teenager listening to Simple Plan and crying how life's unfair. Weird phases like that need to naturally play out without serious interference of reflexive diagnosing, with so much of it based on current cultural phenomena.

I'm about to have my second kid and like you I'm going to try my hardest to not give into some of these pressures on kids that frankly i think are and will have a negative effects in the medium-long term.

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Oct 17 2023 11:27am
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i was never a covid denier, but it was fun to see people openly attack big pharma. pharma and insurance companies are up to some exceedingly evil things.

i have a relative that's a pharmacist and some of the horror stories he tells me.... he has to advocate so hard for some patients just to clear red tape.


These things are not mutually exclusive

Covid is nuanced, people insist on making things black and white

Covid was lethal in 2020 and 2021. Vaccines unarguably saved lives and prevented hospitalizations in that timeframe

Covid is now part of our respiratory virus flora Akin to flu and rsv. Yes people still die but the majority are fine, unlike 2020/2021 where healthy people were dying regularly. So vaccines naturally are not as effective now as they used to be, but if you’re an at risk population you should still get it . I think I got a booster in 2022 but haven’t had one since then.

I’m blaming insurance companies more than big pharma here, but fully acknowledging and agreeing it’s all intertwined. The reality is insurance companies do NOT act in what is best for the insured patient. It’s actually the opposite and it requires unrealistic amounts of time to get basic bad decisions overturned. this week (it’s Tuesday) So far I have spent a total of 2 hours on hold or doing “peer to peers” for medications that are uncontroversial and should be covered no brainer. My “peer” is a 70 year old retired doctor with no current board certifications. My latest tactic is asking them what their certifications are before the conversation even starts. Sometimes it just a nurse not even a doctor. American insurance system is So utterly and shamelessly broken . It doesn’t seem like a lot of time but it adds up and I’m not getting paid extra for the time. I could tell the patient sorry insurance company said no and not bother fighting it. We all do that sometimes for less important shit but it is a headache. Nobody hates insurance companies more than docs and pharmacists
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Kids today have it infinitely tougher compared to the average kid in the 80s, 90s even early 2000s and I honestly feel bad. Back then we were allowed to be kids and progress naturally through life without being psychoanalyzed and over prescribed. I remember being a dweeby teenager listening to Simple Plan and crying how life's unfair. Weird phases like that need to naturally play out without serious interference of reflexive diagnosing, with so much of it based on current cultural phenomena.

I'm about to have my second kid and like you I'm going to try my hardest to not give into some of these pressures on kids that frankly i think are and will have a negative effects in the medium-long term.


I genuinely don’t disagree about anything written here. I think social
Media is a plague for children. Non stop stimulus , potentially bullying that is at a level we can’t really comprehend. I don’t know the right answer here, but I think the over prescription of medications isn’t the answer. I think something along the right lines would be all together banning or restricting social media in kids. I say that as a fb share holder haha but I think social media is a big part of the problem.
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Oct 17 2023 11:33am
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 17 2023 12:27pm)
These things are not mutually exclusive

Covid is nuanced, people insist on making things black and white

Covid was lethal in 2020 and 2021. Vaccines unarguably saved lives and prevented hospitalizations in that timeframe

Covid is now part of our respiratory virus flora Akin to flu and rsv. Yes people still die but the majority are fine, unlike 2020/2021 where healthy people were dying regularly. So vaccines naturally are not as effective now as they used to be, but if you’re an at risk population you should still get it . I think I got a booster in 2022 but haven’t had one since then.

I’m blaming insurance companies more than big pharma here, but fully acknowledging and agreeing it’s all intertwined. The reality is insurance companies do NOT act in what is best for the insured patient. It’s actually the opposite and it requires unrealistic amounts of time to get basic bad decisions overturned. this week (it’s Tuesday) So far I have spent a total of 2 hours on hold or doing “peer to peers” for medications that are uncontroversial and should be covered no brainer. My “peer” is a 70 year old retired doctor with no current board certifications. My latest tactic is asking them what their certifications are before the conversation even starts. Sometimes it just a nurse not even a doctor. American insurance system is So utterly and shamelessly broken . It doesn’t seem like a lot of time but it adds up and I’m not getting paid extra for the time. I could tell the patient sorry insurance company said no and not bother fighting it. We all do that sometimes for less important shit but it is a headache. Nobody hates insurance companies more than docs and pharmacists


I genuinely don’t disagree about anything written here. I think social
Media is a plague for children. Non stop stimulus , potentially bullying that is at a level we can’t really comprehend. I don’t know the right answer here, but I think the over prescription of medications isn’t the answer. I think something along the right lines would be all together banning or restricting social media in kids. I say that as a fb share holder haha but I think social media is a big part of the problem.


yup agree 100%. i didnt disagree with the vaccines for covid, but seeing big pharma take heat was nice.

and also agree on insurance companies being at fault. private insurance is a cancer on society. socialized medicine is by far my most liberal position.
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Oct 17 2023 11:46am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 17 2023 12:33pm)
yup agree 100%. i didnt disagree with the vaccines for covid, but seeing big pharma take heat was nice.

and also agree on insurance companies being at fault. private insurance is a cancer on society. socialized medicine is by far my most liberal position.



I am unquestionably liberal on health insurance and didn’t become so until when I actually started practicing. It breaks my soul when I have to choose between an inferior medication vs financial burden of the patient. Patient gets mad either way, it ain’t my fault lol. Our healthcare training is uncompromising meaning knowing first line therapies for everything in your domain. We know 2nd and 3rd line treatment options if there is a medical reason for it, but really trained to know financial side. Friend of mine, like core group bestie, recently had his doctor order an echocardiogram and my buddy asked me how much it would be. I don’t have the slightest idea, it’s not like there is transparency on costs and this is an insurance question. He’s a Very reasonable guy but still annoyed I couldn’t give him the cost lol

This same erroneous corrupt system is now fucking with our children, so now it pisses me off personally

To point . Kids undoubtedly have more stress than we did as kids. I stressed in 5th grade to get home for dragon ball z. These kids are getting death threats by 2nd grade now. A different world. There is no moral reason kids shouldn’t be offered therapy before medications
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Oct 17 2023 11:52am
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 17 2023 12:46pm)
I am unquestionably liberal on health insurance and didn’t become so until when I actually started practicing. It breaks my soul when I have to choose between an inferior medication vs financial burden of the patient. Patient gets mad either way, it ain’t my fault lol. Our healthcare training is uncompromising meaning knowing first line therapies for everything in your domain. We know 2nd and 3rd line treatment options if there is a medical reason for it, but really trained to know financial side. Friend of mine, like core group bestie, recently had his doctor order an echocardiogram and my buddy asked me how much it would be. I don’t have the slightest idea, it’s not like there is transparency on costs and this is an insurance question. He’s a Very reasonable guy but still annoyed I couldn’t give him the cost lol

This same erroneous corrupt system is now fucking with our children, so now it pisses me off personally

To ^ofthevoid point . Kids undoubtedly have more stress than we did as kids. I stressed in 5th grade to get home for dragon ball z. These kids are getting death threats by 2nd grade now. A different world. There is no moral reason kids shouldn’t be offered therapy before medications


stressing made sense, Vegeta had been building up that blast for an entire episode!

on the topic of therapies vs SSRIs all i can offer as solace is the knowledge MANY parents would decline therapy. even if it were free. my wife has countless parents who qualify for free therapy to help their autistic kids and maybe half actually take their kids to it. most are too lazy to even drive them there or clean the house enough to allow therapists home visits.
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